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re: 20-year-old sues Walmart, Dick's because they wouldn't sell him guns

Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:52 am to
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:52 am to
I guess then I am ignorant of the law that states age cannot be a discriminating factor.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14472 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:54 am to
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All of this cheering on a kid suing to force someone to sell him guns.


Are you reading the same thread I am?

At least as many people side with the store on this thread. And most of the posts are discussing what the law is or isn't.

Personally, I think the store SHOULD be able to restrict their sales. Legally they may have an issue if there is a state public accommodation law that includes age.

So what is your position on this case? Should the store be forced to sell him a gun? Demonstrate your lack of hypocrisy.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:54 am to
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guess then I am ignorant of the law that states age cannot be a discriminating factor.


You must be. Plenty of federal court decisions to pluck from.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64557 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:56 am to
If there is only one set of age limits then that is discriminating. How does this hold up?

I am serious.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 10:57 am
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21855 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:57 am to
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While many of us think they should, the proggies have already set the precedent that you CAN’T refuse service, so this is just using their own ammo against them.


Was that a pun?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79595 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:58 am to
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If you don't understand something so blatantly hypocritical as this, I'm not gonna waste my time.


So, just to be clear, your stance is that Dick’s should be forced to sell this young man a gun, amirite?
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:58 am to
I don’t know what to tell you. SCOTUS has ruled that people 40 and older can have a cause of action for age discrimination in employment situations

There is no such protection for any other age bracket at the federal level. Any discrimination based on age outside of the older people at work receives the rational basis test, just like every other non suspect/protected class of people.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 10:59 am
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:59 am to
I firmly believe that private businesses should be able to do business with anyone they want and, on the flip side, should be able to decline to do business with anyone they want for any reason they want.

It’s going to be funny to watch the left twist and turn to somehow make this okay.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19895 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:59 am to
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Oregon has age as a protected class In employment situations


You read further than I did. I just looked up a quick "Do they protect age?" answer and went back to making the donuts.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:00 am to
I looked even further, they do have a statue giving rise to this case. However it’s lengthy and appears to give lots of wiggle room for exceptions. I wouldn’t be surprised for a liberal OR judge to find a way for guns not to fit
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64557 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:00 am to
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I firmly believe that private businesses should be able to do business with anyone they want and, on the flip side, should be able to decline to do business with anyone they want for any reason they want.


I like this for a business stand point.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23109 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:01 am to
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All of this cheering on a kid suing to force someone to sell him guns. This cheering from the same ones who were hysterical that two dykes sued a baker to sell them a cake.

Hypocrisy knows no bounds.


It's called retribution and revenge, not hypocrisy.

The best way to show liberals how stupid they are is to force them to swallow their own stupidity.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18048 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:07 am to
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government is OPENLY practicing discrimination by making it illegal to discriminate ONLY against certain people.


Exactly! And how does all these protected classes vs non-protected classes square with the 14th?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108098 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:08 am to
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I mean, why exactly is it illegal to discriminate against you if you're female, but not if you're ugly?


Ok, what if I need to hire a model? Should I be forced to hire an ugly person? What if I’m hiring a personal trainer and the person is 200 pounds overweight? I can descriminate against both of these people and say I won’t hire them because they are ugly and fat.

What do you think bouncers at nightclubs do?

quote:

Maybe bikini shops should ban selling bikinis to women over a 25 BMI.


Yes, that is legal. You shouldn’t have to make a swimsuit for someone on “My 600 Pound Life “ that compromises your brand’s integrity.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
18516 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:11 am to
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Just like those cake decorator suits were, right?


Except age has always been on of the protected classes.

Imagine the uproar if Walmart stopped selling an item to everyone over 55 because they felt like it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:13 am to
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Ok, what if I need to hire a model? Should I be forced to hire an ugly person?
I don't think you grasped the point of my post.

Read the whole thing again. That way, I don't have to be repetitive.

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Yes, that is legal. You shouldn’t have to make a swimsuit for someone on “My 600 Pound Life “ that compromises your brand’s integrity.
See above
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81570 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:14 am to
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There is no worthwhile argument to back stance of these stores.
Other way around. There is no argument supporting this suit.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:15 am to
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Exactly! And how does all these protected classes vs non-protected classes square with the 14th?


The problem with the entire concept of "protected classes" is that it also means there are UNprotected classes.

The govt has said, IN LAW.........."hey, if you frick with people in group X......we're gonna step in and protect them OR........we'll let them use our courts to punish you.........but if you frick with people in group Y..........all good".

You don't get more straight up government sanctioned discrimination than that.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 11:16 am
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:20 am to
The amount of people who got their law degree from Internet University (TM) on both sides of this issue is crazy.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 11:20 am to
What are these UNprotected classes?
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