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re: 20-year-old sues Walmart, Dick's because they wouldn't sell him guns
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:33 am to Ag Zwin
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:33 am to Ag Zwin
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Jeez. This stuff is so idiotic and just gives ammunition to whoever criticizes the right as being uneducated.
I'll be surprised if this is not summarily dismissed.
Why don't you elaborate a little bit for us dullards. Do companies have a right to discriminate in their services based on age, sex, race, etc or do they not?
I'm actually quite interested to see how the courts interpret this as I believe they've been quite unclear and this flips the political positions of the complainants and their supporters.
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Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:33 am to OMLandshark
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Anyone who thinks that someone should have the right to not bake a gay wedding cake should side with Walmart/Dick’s here.
While many of us think they should, the proggies have already set the precedent that you CAN’T refuse service, so this is just using their own ammo against them.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:34 am to bamarep
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The only thing that would be better would be if the NRA were footing the bill.
dont rule that out
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:34 am to weagle99
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Please expand on this.
ITs very very simple. Age is not a protected class.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:34 am to OMLandshark
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He should win the lawsuit.
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Why? Unless he’s being barred from the military or going to vote, he doesn’t have a case being a 20 year old. They are not a protected class.
It is discrimination by age under state law.
While there is no federal law surrounding age and the second amendment it may provide a test case.
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 10:38 am
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:34 am to OMLandshark
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Anyone who thinks that someone should have the right to not bake a gay wedding cake should side with Walmart/Dick’s here.
The cake bakers did not have a problem selling cakes to gay people, they did not want to decorate the cake in such a way to promote gay marriage.
Dicks and Walmart aren’t not selling guns to 18-20 yr olds based on their intended use, they are refusing to sell to all 18-20 yr olds period.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:35 am to weagle99
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Please expand on this.
It’s over 40 where this is an issue, but I was not aware Oregon has actual age discrimination laws unlike most of the rest of the country. If this went up to the Supreme Court it would be dismissed, but I’m not sure it will in Oregon specifically.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:35 am to ChewyDante
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Do companies have a right to discriminate in their services based on age,
Absent a carve out regarding old people in employment situations, yes, yes they do.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:35 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
So I am free to tell someone interviewing with my company they can’t have a job becuase they are too old?
Please inform my HR department.
Please inform my HR department.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:36 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
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ITs very very simple. Age is not a protected class.
That was the thrust of my initial reply, too. Turns out, Oregon (where this was filed) does have age as a protected class.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:36 am to ChewyDante
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Do companies have a right to discriminate in their services based on age, sex, race, etc or do they not?
Age, absolutely. Sex and race: no.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:36 am to OMLandshark
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Anyone who thinks that someone should have the right to not bake a gay wedding cake should side with Walmart/Dick’s here.
Is this 20 year-old asking for a custom-made gun?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:36 am to weagle99
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So I am free to tell someone interviewing with my company they can’t have a job becuase they are too old?
Please inform my HR department.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:36 am to weagle99
Did you not read the post where I said “old people in employment situations” was a carve out?
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:37 am to Ag Zwin
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Jeez. This stuff is so idiotic and just gives ammunition to whoever criticizes the right as being uneducated.
How? That is age discrimination. It is a thing. Educate yourself.
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I'll be surprised if this is not summarily dismissed.
Prepare to be surprised.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:37 am to Ag Zwin
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Jeez. This stuff is so idiotic and just gives ammunition to whoever criticizes the right as being uneducated.
It should be, but precedent is set...
Let them eat cake
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:37 am to OMLandshark
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Anyone who thinks that someone should have the right to not bake a gay wedding cake should side with Walmart/Dick’s here.
Except the courts can't rule one way and then rule the other way in this case. I agree with what you state, but the courts made their ruling and now we move forward to this case where they now have to rule in favor of the 20 year old.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:37 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
Since we posted at the same exact time I did not read it before making my post.
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:37 am to Ag Zwin
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does have age as a protected class.
Oregon has age as a protected class In employment situations
Posted on 3/6/18 at 10:38 am to OMLandshark
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OMLandshark
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