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re: 1Q GDP projection holding steady at a vigorous 2.0%

Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by 90proofprofessional
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:47 pm to
no
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 6:51 pm to
Why?
Posted by 90proofprofessional
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:00 pm to
not useful imo except as advocacy for the underlying political ideology. limited in the tools of modern economics thaat they actually commonly use, also for ideological reasons
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:03 pm to
Early Austrians played an important role in time preference/interest theory

Also the importance of economic calculation
Posted by 90proofprofessional
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:09 pm to
and then they stood still, while the field absorbed their worthwhile contributions and kept progressing

also I'm not sure what you're talking about with economic calculation but am granting it for the sake of argument
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 7:10 pm to
Mises

Economic calculation in socialist commonwealth
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:09 pm to
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Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

90proof.......do you dabble in Austrian economics a bit?


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

Yo disagree the ATL Fed Model which is universally understood to be broken, is broken?

Okay.
When did this become a universal understanding? It sure wasn't the case when this board has numerous posts when the model early in the quarter had the growth at 5.4%.

I've posted it before, but the ATL Fed's own study of the model unsurprisingly found it to be less accurate early in a quarter compared to the expert consensus but ir becomes more accurate than the consensus near the end when it has much more data to model.

In this case they're converging on a similar figure so while both can be wrong the 2% or so prediction seems most reasonable and would be in line with the recent YOY quarterly trends.

Of course while the mid 2% growth seems reasonable, the 3% expectation would mean that if grew 2% in Q1 then the final 2 quarters would have to grow by 3.53% in order to have 3% growth for the year.

Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 9:06 am to
new week of data releases contributing to the projection results in a tiny decrease (2.01 to 1.98) that still rounds to 2.0





release of the BEA estimate for 1Q GDP is tomorrow!
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 1:31 pm to
moody's 1Q projection prior to the official estimate is 1.7%

NY Fed's nowcast is 2.9%
Oxford Economics is 1.6%
STL Fed's is at 3.5%!
WSJ survey at 2.1%

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