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Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:55 pm to bbvdd
Empty 9mm< loaded 9mm< loaded bigger pistol.
Certainly a loaded 9mm on the guides hip may have changed the outcome. Not saying everyone goes home perfect condition but things could have been better.
If they could have stood side by side one with bear spray and one with gun. Spray first then shoot and always stick together. The more people in a group the less people have gotten hurt from some of the studies I’ve read.
Now bears don’t always allow you time to get organized so you need to have a plan before entering their territory.
Certainly a loaded 9mm on the guides hip may have changed the outcome. Not saying everyone goes home perfect condition but things could have been better.
If they could have stood side by side one with bear spray and one with gun. Spray first then shoot and always stick together. The more people in a group the less people have gotten hurt from some of the studies I’ve read.
Now bears don’t always allow you time to get organized so you need to have a plan before entering their territory.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 12:57 pm to Nodust
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I don’t understand unloaded carrying.
Was it empty, in a pack?
Is this real life? How sloppy was that guide? Complacency kills.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 1:57 pm to LSUintheNW
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Was it empty, in a pack?
Is this real life? How sloppy was that guide? Complacency kills.
Doesn’t make sense. Sounded like a guide with experience in that country. Why bring a gun but have it unloaded in a pack. Not sure how far away pack was but it wasn’t within hand reach.
Hopefully we will get a good detailed report. So many articles saying different things. Maybe we shouldn’t come to conclusions until a better report is out.
Posted on 9/22/18 at 5:06 pm to ChatRabbit77
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I'm still of the mind that a Glock 20 with 16 rds of hot 10mm (something like buffalo bore) is a better choice than a revolver. They're easier to shoot and you have many more chances to hit your target.
Buffalo bore would be snappy as hell in a 10mm
Posted on 9/23/18 at 1:43 pm to jakedel12
Bear spray
Posted on 9/23/18 at 1:51 pm to p&g
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Bear spray
You must not know much about operating outdoors in bear country.
This post was edited on 9/23/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 9/23/18 at 2:05 pm to EA6B
I don’t
Still funny though
Still funny though
Posted on 9/23/18 at 5:35 pm to p&g
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Still funny though
It’s funny until you decide to test spray one because you getting on a plane the next day and can’t take it with you.
Then halfway through the test the wind shifts
Posted on 9/24/18 at 9:38 am to Nodust
Why wouldn't the Guide and his paid hunter wear Bear Bells on their wrists. Nothing scares away bears faster than wearing a bear bell in large groups like the Japanese do when trotting through the urban wilderness.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 7:55 am to kengel2
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The Glock pistol and the magazine were found in different places. It may be that Chubon activated the magazine release in an attempt to get the pistol to work.
It is not unknown for someone unfamiliar with a pistol, trying desperately to get it to fire, to press the magazine release while attempting to deactivate a safety.
It sounds to me this fella had no business being out there, and the guide should have informed him on how to use the firearm if he were incapacitated.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It sounds to me this fella had no business being out there, and the guide should have informed him on how to use the firearm if he were incapacitated.
Although this is probably true. People hire guides and that being so, much responsibility falls on the guide.
If there is a reason to carry a firearm for protection, never separate yourself from it. Unfortunate situation and prayers to those involved.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:11 am to Manchac Man
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People hire guides and that being so, much responsibility falls on the guide
Folks I have worked with in the past always do a firearms orientation. It's really not uncommon for people who hire guides for hunting to be unfamiliar with them.
tough situation either way, awful way to die.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
Sure seems that they should’ve kept a shotgun in camp for situations like this.
Friend killed a moose on a guided hunt in BC. The guide had him sit on a small hill above him while he cleaned the moose. The guide instructed him to watch for bears and cover him with his 300 WBY.
Friend killed a moose on a guided hunt in BC. The guide had him sit on a small hill above him while he cleaned the moose. The guide instructed him to watch for bears and cover him with his 300 WBY.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
This guide was very seasoned, but he made multiple mistakes unfortunately. First that area is very high grizzly population I can't believe they let a hurt elk sit overnight and then went back with just 2 of them and only a pistol. Then I can't believe he was gutting/ breaking down the animal without the other guy armed and on the lookout.
But yeah very unfortunate, I assumed the hunter completely panicked considering he took his horse and completely left the area.
But yeah very unfortunate, I assumed the hunter completely panicked considering he took his horse and completely left the area.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 8:39 am to 257WBY
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Sure seems that they should’ve kept a shotgun in camp for situations like this.
Yep. Or a "guide gun"
In bear country always cover your arse, particularly when cleaning game
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Folks I have worked with in the past always do a firearms orientation. It's really not uncommon for people who hire guides for hunting to be unfamiliar with them.
No doubt a guide should do this either way. If nothing more than to understand what level of experience their hunter has.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 9:47 am to Manchac Man
Call me a puss I don’t care, but yeah if I’m elbows deep in elk guts in grizzly country I have someone looking over me with a good 360 degree line of sight especially down wind locked and loaded. He should have given the Hunter a 30 second briefing on how to use the gun. But then again maybe he did, and the hunter just panicked.
There was a good tip in the comments of that article linked on this page where the guy recommends putting some duct tape around the mag if you ever carry without a 2nd mag. Basically you have no reason to remove the mag, so do everything to keep it in as releasing the mag happens on accident to even experienced shooters in high stress.
There was a good tip in the comments of that article linked on this page where the guy recommends putting some duct tape around the mag if you ever carry without a 2nd mag. Basically you have no reason to remove the mag, so do everything to keep it in as releasing the mag happens on accident to even experienced shooters in high stress.
Posted on 11/23/18 at 3:04 pm to baldona
No reason to carry condition 3 in the woods. One could argue for condition 3 around possible human hostiles otherwise there is simply no reason.
Condition 1 isn't available on a glock. It is condition 0 or 3.
As long as you use a holster that fully covers the trigger and trigger gaurd condition 0 is perfectly safe.
Potential frustrations with moving parts is why many who desire a bear gun choose a revolver. Not to mention large bore capabilities.
Condition 1 isn't available on a glock. It is condition 0 or 3.
As long as you use a holster that fully covers the trigger and trigger gaurd condition 0 is perfectly safe.
Potential frustrations with moving parts is why many who desire a bear gun choose a revolver. Not to mention large bore capabilities.
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