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re: Why get a cc permit?
Posted on 5/18/13 at 11:14 pm to Yat27
Posted on 5/18/13 at 11:14 pm to Yat27
I stand corrected. I guess I was mainly referring to civilians open carrying, but regardless, I made a false assumption.
And I definitely agree here too. The best thing about CC in my opinion is that people around you act no differently. Those without exposure to firearms will always be looking at your piece out the corner of their eye if you are OC'ing. CC just keeps people at peace and that's always a good thing.
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I would much rather them not know I'm carrying.
And I definitely agree here too. The best thing about CC in my opinion is that people around you act no differently. Those without exposure to firearms will always be looking at your piece out the corner of their eye if you are OC'ing. CC just keeps people at peace and that's always a good thing.
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Posted on 5/18/13 at 11:15 pm to dawg23
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This, along with the old "rack the slide to scare the intruder" idea, is a well-worn internet myths. And I'm sure you believe it.
But you have my blessings -- go open carry all you want. I'm not the one wearing the "Shoot Me First" t-shirt. And don't worry about retention training stuff -- probably never need it.
Exactly. I mean spot on.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 11:16 pm to dawg23
This age old argument can go on and on.
I really have no beleif that one is better than the other. I think they both play a part in whatever the situation/environment may call for.
to the racking the slide.
I really have no beleif that one is better than the other. I think they both play a part in whatever the situation/environment may call for.
to the racking the slide. This post was edited on 5/18/13 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 5/18/13 at 11:20 pm to bapple
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Those without exposure to firearms will always be looking at your piece out the corner of their eye if you are OC'ing.
Some inside baseball knowledge here. If you are OCing and find someone looking at your weapon, you better blade off. I'm a laid back guy, even when in uniform working most of the time. However, if I catch someone eye fricking my visible weapon they get called on it and not in a nice way, PERIOD. Google "OODA Loop" to see what I am talking about.
Posted on 5/18/13 at 11:55 pm to Five0
I'll check it out.
I was just mainly pointing out that in general, CC is better since people act no differently around you.
I was just mainly pointing out that in general, CC is better since people act no differently around you.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:21 am to bapple
Interesting conversation guys. I've never been sure about the benefits of OC vs CC in LA.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:39 am to Crawdaddy
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This age old argument can go on and on.
That's true. I also fall into the category of those who'd rather "conceal my strengths" than advertise that I'm armed.
What can't be debated is the "man with a gun" call from the public. A lot more of these incidents occur w/ OC than w/ CC.
I support the legal/constitutional right of OC, but it's just not for me.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 12:54 am to TigerOnThe Hill
Follow the rules and its one less thing the courts can hang over your head. Dont give them a reason to find fault. This state gives you the right to defend yourself, just obey the law.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 1:25 am to TigerOnThe Hill
Well sadly lots of people who open carry are just looking to stir shite.
Like that beef cake in the video above is just waiting for someone to frick with him so he can roid rage and draw on them.
Like that beef cake in the video above is just waiting for someone to frick with him so he can roid rage and draw on them.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 1:30 am to Dooshay
I have all the paperwork for a CC and won't submit it. Because I don't want my name on any list no matter how much you trust it.
If I need to CC, which is rare, I'll do it. If I get in trouble, so be it. It's worth the risk in my opinion where getting on a list for CC is not.
Just because it's legal doesn't make it right and just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's wrong.
I'll do what I see as best. I'm not asking for permission.
If I need to CC, which is rare, I'll do it. If I get in trouble, so be it. It's worth the risk in my opinion where getting on a list for CC is not.
Just because it's legal doesn't make it right and just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's wrong.
I'll do what I see as best. I'm not asking for permission.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:08 am to faxis
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I have all the paperwork for a CC and won't submit it. Because I don't want my name on any list no matter how much you trust it. If I need to CC, which is rare, I'll do it. If I get in trouble, so be it. It's worth the risk in my opinion where getting on a list for CC is not. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right and just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's wrong. I'll do what I see as best. I'm not asking for permission.
This is exactly me as well.
I don't want to be on some government list associated with guns. I figure if I actually shoot someone it's because, first, someone else's life is in imminent danger, next, I've totally got the drop on the perp, and I have a clear field of fire.
If I get in legal trouble for saving someone's life by killing another, so be it. I'll deal with the consequences. What I don't want on my conscience for the rest of my life is the regret that I could've done something but didn't.
I would never take someone's life over property - unless I catch someone taking any of my guns. I figure I'm responsible for those firearms and don't want them to be used to take an innocent person's life.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:20 am to Five0
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Bingo. Plus, if you are polite and sober cops like me will let you go with no cite for most traffic violations. Food for thought. .
I can vouch for this. Yesterday, I topped a hill doing waaaaay more than I shoulda been and a cop was sitting at the bottom. I gave him my DL, ins, and CC permit. He said "give me five minutes and you'll be gone. He thanked me multiple times for including that and let me go in no time, instead of arresting me like he could have.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 7:48 am to jsb29
I have to admit that I've been torn about the "being on a list" issue for years, which is why I've never gotten a CCL. CCL was rendered less important to me when car-carry was legalized in TX.
When I'm in Alaska, it's legal to CC without any license, so that's what I do. But when I'm in TX, it now seems funny to not CC, so I'm considering getting a license.
In New Mexico, I just OC...not unusual in the area I'm in. I also OC in Alaska with no concern. However, even if legal, I would not OC in Houston...loose the element of surprise. Furthermore, I could see some wiry little shite run up behind you and try to snag your weapon and run, or a group of thugs try to challenge you.
When I'm in Alaska, it's legal to CC without any license, so that's what I do. But when I'm in TX, it now seems funny to not CC, so I'm considering getting a license.
In New Mexico, I just OC...not unusual in the area I'm in. I also OC in Alaska with no concern. However, even if legal, I would not OC in Houston...loose the element of surprise. Furthermore, I could see some wiry little shite run up behind you and try to snag your weapon and run, or a group of thugs try to challenge you.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:18 am to CoastieGM
What is the penalty for being caught with a concealed handgun without a permit? I was under the impression it was pretty steep.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:30 am to faxis
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I have all the paperwork for a CC and won't submit it. Because I don't want my name on any list no matter how much you trust it. If I need to CC, which is rare, I'll do it. If I get in trouble, so be it. It's worth the risk in my opinion where getting on a list for CC is not. Just because it's legal doesn't make it right and just because it's illegal doesn't mean it's wrong. I'll do what I see as best. I'm not asking for permission.
You (presumably) bought a firearm. If you bought it from a dealer, you're on a Federal (ATF) list -- and if it was bought from an individual, you're in the "chain of custody" that will lead back to you if the ATF or FBI ever inteviews the person who sold the gun to you.
But you're worried about being on a Louisiana "list?" In one of the most pro-gun states in the US ???
I call BS on this "logic."
I'm sure this doesn't apply to you, but the majority of people who "refuse to submit to rules" can't qualify for a Concealed Handgun Permit. It's usually that pesky background check that serevs as an impediment.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:34 am to CptRusty
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What is the penalty for being caught with a concealed handgun without a permit? I was under the impression it was pretty steep.
Texas = Class A Misdemeanor (1 year/$4,000). Pretty serious, but not a felony . However, it's a FELONY if caught in any place that sells alcohol
New Mexico = Misdemeanor. $500 fine. However a Felony & $5,000 fine in any place that has a "no guns" sign posted.
Alaska = No permit needed. Anyone over 21 and without a felony may CC. Only other requirement is that you immediately notify any LEO you're dealing with that you are CC-ing
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:35 am to CoastieGM
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Alaska = No permit needed. Anyone over 21 and without a felony may CC. Only other requirement is that you immediately notify any LEO you're dealing with that you are CC-ing
Alaska is such an awesome place.
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:37 am to CptRusty
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What is the penalty for being caught with a concealed handgun without a permit? I was under the impression it was pretty steep.
Whoever commits the crime of illegal carrying of weapons shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.
LINK
This post was edited on 5/19/13 at 8:40 am
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:37 am to CoastieGM
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CoastieGM
Any info on Louisiana?
Posted on 5/19/13 at 8:40 am to CptRusty
my post above is for louisiana
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