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re: What Personal Defense Weapon (think 9mm SMG) is everyone using?

Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4617 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:28 pm to
I wonder why Glock hasn’t come out with a carbine.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10056 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:01 pm to
Where do you people live where you need rifles for home defense? Maybe move.

Handgun in the nightstand should be enough, you aren't fighting the military...
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
1240 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:15 pm to
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I am in the market, and I'm seeing people enjoying the Kuna, APC9, sp5, and scorpion Evo.
I have a B&T APC45 it's slick. I don't own a 9mm but years ago I watched this comparison video on YouTube it featured the Scorpion EVO, Zenith ZP5, B&T APC9 & Mini UZI all stamped & configured in SBR ---> LINK
This one is head to head featuring the Sig MPX & the Scorpion EVO ----> LINK

This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 6:54 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46135 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

I wonder why Glock hasn’t come out with a carbine.
a very excellent question. clearly they have their reasons
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

I wonder why Glock hasn’t come out with a carbine.


Slap it in a roni.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
84459 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

Where do you people live where you need rifles for home defense? Maybe move.
How about I just want something fun to shoot in a 9MM that's in between a pistol and a carbine and doesn't cost all that much to shoot.

But the most logical answer I give people is "because I want another gun and because I can"
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 7:22 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27968 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:49 pm to
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Where do you people live where you need rifles for home defense?


One of the nicer places in Shelby county actually.

No crime where I live, but police take an average of around 30 min to get to my neighborhood. It’s already done at that point and follow up shots are a hell if a lot faster with a rifle. Rifle is also a host to a silencer and light.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
1081 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:55 pm to
In my other life they 1st gave me a M-14, then a M-16, finally a 1911 45APC. Nice thing about the 1911 was that it was very loud. If down range, you could hear the round hum. There was no doubt that you were being shot at by something that could kill you.
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
2461 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:57 pm to
I have a cheap Extar with a suppressor on it. Over 2000 rounds and zero issues.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
1425 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:06 am to
quote:

In my other life they 1st gave me a M-14, then a M-16, finally a 1911 45APC.
TYFYS!
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
61750 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:47 am to
S&W, M&P, 9 Shield. Had for a while, very accurate.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23505 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:30 am to
I have a Zenith ZP5K

Love tge MO5 platform. Shoot it suppressed 100% of the time. Very accurate and felt recoil is negligible. The zenith is my secondary bedside gun with M&&P 2.0 rullsiz as primary.



Scorpion SBR
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 10:53 am
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
10787 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:38 am to
Rugar SR9 for the home. 12g, buckshot, no plug.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9549 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:19 pm to
I'm not picking on you or aiming to be demeaning, but I really don't understand the appeal of these 9mm frames. None of them are fully automatic and they're all chambered for pistol ammunition.

I do admit they look cool as shite, but insofar as quality defense weapon for pricing I'd much prefer the Beretta M9, 92-F, or 92-X Centurion models chambered in 9mm. Simple sidearms rather than a firearm that looks like something one of the coke dealers carried on Miami Vice but still performs in semi-auto only without increasing effectiveness of a 9mm round.

In truth though, I am interested in what makes this style firearm appealing to so many people. Obviously they wouldn't be so widely carried on the racks in the stores if they weren't popular. Someone please educate me. I may be missing something that is quite obvious to anyone else here.
Posted by SwampCollie
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
310 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

I really don't understand the appeal of these 9mm frames


Tell me you've never fired a suppressed SP5 without telling me


Serious answer - I've been in zero gun fights and don't plan to so the "effectiveness" vs pistol or rifle is a moot point.

PDWs, especially the roller delayed variants, are fun and inexpensive to shoot vs rifles. 147 grain 9mm is stupid quite and super cheap vs 300 blk subs.

Posted by Swamp Angel
Somewhere on a river
Member since Jul 2004
9549 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:58 pm to
You're definitely right. I have never fired a suppressed SP5, but I have fired a suppressed MP5. I imagine the SP5 is just as fun.

I reckon if you're planning on taking it out an just busting caps into some paper at the range (or cans and bottles out back if you're away from town) they can be fun as hell. I must be getting too old to understand, or even remember, having a good time popping off a few rounds from whatever firearm called my name that day.

Thanks for the response. I may have to head to the range to put in some fun time and try one out this evening now.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 2:59 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37662 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

I must be getting too old to understand, or even remember, having a good time popping off a few rounds from whatever firearm called my name that day.


You LITERALLY just said you remember having fun popping off a few rounds….

quote:

they can be fun as hell


quote:

You're definitely right. I have never fired a suppressed SP5, but I have fired a suppressed MP5. I imagine the SP5 is just as fun.



I have money and land. I like to shoot. So I buy guns I enjoy and take them to shoot?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
27968 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

I have never fired a suppressed SP5, but I have fired a suppressed MP5. I imagine the SP5 is just as fun.


They're the same weapon save for one is a semi-auto and doesn't cost $50k
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
24799 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

I wonder why Glock hasn’t come out with a carbine.


They haven't figured out how to make something that looks good.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
24799 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

How about I just want something fun to shoot in a 9MM that's in between a pistol and a carbine and doesn't cost all that much to shoot.


At some point I'd like to get a CMMG Banshee MK17 because it uses P320 mags.
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