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What is a decent price per ton to receive for pine pulpwood in SW Mississippi?

Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:51 pm
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:51 pm
Anyone know?
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:10 pm to
Take whatever you can to get if you find someone willing to cut and haul it.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:37 pm to
I’m no expert but no one can answer that without the acreage you have and where.
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:54 pm to
40 acres, Lincoln County.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:12 pm to
That number might be changing before long.
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:31 pm to
Are you saying the pulpwood price is changing? Up or down?
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:53 pm to
Everyone says this but where I’m at numerous small acreage gets thinned or clear cut each year. There seems to be an outfit willing to cut all the time.
Posted by Crisprdestroyer
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 2/6/25 at 10:54 pm to
Family land got cut few months ago. The pulp wood is layiy there rotting. No where to sell
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:00 am to
If it's good winter logging access you might get $2. Take whatever price anyone offers it they're willing to do it
Posted by Bayou Ken
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:02 am to
Prices are definitely down. I am working with a forester and am only getting $2 an acre for pulpwood. Have been waiting almost a year to get 70 acres of 20 year old pines cut. The mills are being very selective. Was going to do a 3rd row thin but beetles and the drought killed about 30% of the trees so I have to clear cut them for a logger to be interested. Going to select cut hardwoods as well.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 7:10 am to
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I am working with a forester


Good choice
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:09 pm to
This is the correct answer. It will depend a lot on many factors. Are you close to a mill? Are they cutting close by (no need to move equipment)? Is there easy, high ground access during wet season, Is there some chip and saw in there with it to be thinned or straight pulpwood.

With only 40 acres, your looking at somewhere around 2-4K depending on the volume you want to remove. Take it if you can get it. The value is in the stand improvements.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 5:40 pm to
2-4k per ton? Roughly how many tons per acre?
Posted by nogoodjr
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 6:58 pm to
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2-4k per ton? Roughly how many tons per acre?


NO!! 2-4 k total. I am figuring 2.00 per ton and 30 tons per acre. That’s about 2400 total. Obviously the volume could be higher or lower depending on the basal rate of the timber and how significant you want it thinnned. The point is the money is insignificant. The real benefit is the health of the timber stand. The only money is in the final cutting so you need to improve the stand to get there asap with the best possible product.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:32 pm to
The way I look at it is that my objective is to be able to pay for a dozer to come in and clean up behind the logger. So $2k doesn't get it. I figure at a minimum whenever I have a logging job done I want to fix the road, clean up a food plot where the loading deck was, probably put in a new deer stand, and usually a culvert or two. And then there are fire lanes. If I'm thinning a pine stand i always want good wide fire lanes that I can disk around. Because I'm gonna want to burn that stand two years after thinning and then every 2-3 years thereafter.

So it's more like I need to put $5-10k back into the land to "leave it better than it was." Or I'm going backwards.

So whenever I thin some pines I'm always looking for something else for the logger to do. Like cutting some low grade hardwood logs around the perimeter (which helps with the fire lanes and provides sunlight and edge habitat).

Or maybe I'll clearcut 5-7 acres next to the thinning area to raise some money and create some diversity, etc.

To put this into perspective, in 1998 we thinned 30 acres of some pine pulpwood for $18 a ton. In 2004 we thinned 170 acres for $12 a ton. We got over $100,000 for that. In 2005 after Katrina we salvage thinned some stands and only got $8. In 2014 we thinned 70 acres and only got $5 and i thought we were getting robbed.
Now I'm trying to get $2 and throwing in hardwood logs, and clear cutting pine stands just to get the logger interested so I can raise enough money to clean up behind him.

That's how bad it is.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:16 pm to
Took me about 18 months to find someone to do 30 acres clear cut 20 yr trees and I got 10 per ton

Stayed on loggers arse for months and I was willing to take just about anything to get the spot cleared. The left a giant mess of the place though and I'm still cleaning it up.

Hopefully DOGE destroys the Canadian lumber incentive and prices for Americans return
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:34 pm to
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Hopefully DOGE destroys the Canadian lumber incentive and prices for Americans return


We can put whatever tariff on Canadian lumber we want, and it will have zero effect on the stumpage price on pine pulpwood here in the SE US.

We have had 45 new pine sawmills built in the last 15 years. And probably 100 more mills that have gone through major upgrades and capacity expansions. And that hasn't even caused a rise in pine log prices.

We still have way way too many pine trees
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:03 pm to
Gonna be like this for a long time unfortunately.

Two harvests 21 and 23 we sold grade hardwood (Ro/ash) and gum mat tie logs for the same rate we last sold in 1992. Inflation hedge?
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 11:04 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:11 pm to
Tie logs have doubled in the past 20 years. Literally the only timber product that hasn't gone down

RR ties market is pretty good..same with mat timbers

Grade red oak is awful

White oak is incredible

Anything with the word Pine in it is historically bad. Worse in real terms than during the Great Depression
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:14 pm to
I’ve always hated gum, too; not much any more. We sold them in nov-Dec and them bitches were wet and heavy.
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