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What exactly is a limp wristed grip and how can it cause a gun to jam?

Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted by rehtaeh
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:37 pm
I watched Bapple's video. He talks about a "limp wristed grip," which I assume means the person gripping the gun doesn't keep her wrist steady. How can that make a gun jam though?

I'm small boned, but I play the piano so my hands and wrist are fairly strong. This shouldn't be an issue, should it?

I don't want to be "Local Woman Shoots Self in Foot Due to Limp Wristed Grip."

This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 1:38 pm
Posted by aVatiger
Water
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:41 pm to
well, hello there..



you need a good stiff grip
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

I don't want to be "Local Woman Shoots Self in Foot Due to Limp Wristed Grip."


Thank goodness you are a girl, cause I was about to pick on you.

I'm sure the pistol experts will be along shortly.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

How can that make a gun jam though?



if the whole gun recoils, the action can't slide back against the force of your wrist, so it won't fully eject the spent round
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:47 pm to
you need to practice a firm grip.



Limp wrist is where the gun is not secure in hand tight enough for the slide to slide back and forth. What is happening is the entire gun is moving due to recoil not alowing the slide to do all the moving, therefore not cycling the round as it should.

This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 1:51 pm
Posted by bapple
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

He talks about a "limp wristed grip,"


The best way to avoid this is to get your hand as high on the grip as possible.

The most common cause of limp wristing is gripping the pistol too low. As Croacka stated, the slide needs a rigid surface to recoil from. If you limp wrist, you turn that rearward motion into circular motion when the muzzle jumps up. This does not provide sufficient movement to move the slide rearward and eject the spent cartridge.

Get as high of a grip as possible and extend your arms along your sight plane (in line with your eyes). This should prevent limp wristing.

Thanks for your view on my video!

EDIT: You need to know the context of the recent story of the woman shooting herself.

She was an inexperienced shooter and was handed a Smith and Wesson 500 from one of her "friends." After the first shot, the trigger reset and the extreme recoil from the revolver rotated the gun back at her head and caused her to pull the trigger again.

This was one of the most irresponsible things her "friend" could have done. You never put a gun in a novice's hand if they can't handle it, especially one of the most powerful revolvers on the planet.

If you stick with a standard (9, 40, 45) full sized handgun, you should be fine.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 1:57 pm
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

The best way to avoid this is to get your hand as high on the grip as possible.
The safety mechanism on the XD makes this kind of grip mandatory.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65450 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:13 pm to
Tell Bapple I have never had a limp wrist problem. Maybe he has but I haven't. I'm a man.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:20 pm to
Ouch. Posting a link that knocks on your own gun...
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19261 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:25 pm to
quote:


Ouch. Posting a link that knocks on your own gun...


Obvious Glock hater. Most people did not see the slight of hand trick used in that video.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:29 pm to
I own 2 G19s thank you very much.

I thought the round looked a little smaller... is that the case?

ETA: Slots toward the from of the slide?
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 2:34 pm
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6748 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:30 pm to
I hve actually seen this with a girl shooting and auto shotgun. She was so weak against the gun, it would move her and not fully eject
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
12232 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Tell Bapple I have never had a limp wrist problem. Maybe he has but I haven't. I'm a man.




I've only seent it. Never done it.

Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:35 pm to
Girlfriend does this, and my PPQ FTEs every 10rds. I haven't ever had it happen to me in the 500+rds I have put through it
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19261 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:40 pm to
glock "C" series

Now how much of a difference does this make? Not sure, I never ran a limp wrist test on the two Glocks. However I do know that if a test or comparison is to be done, try and keep it all equal. If this guy is this slick, I would not put it past him to be using less than ok ammo as well to prove his point.

Not Loving on Glock, just stating what I see.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:42 pm to
I took the C to mean G19.
Posted by rehtaeh
Member since Oct 2013
4487 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 3:15 pm to
Thanks for the info.

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