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re: Tyler Jordan killed a monster on Honeybreak?
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:25 am to gumbodawg
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:25 am to gumbodawg
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GB - do these celebrities pay when they hunt with outfitters? They sure seem to get the pick of the litter. I’ve always felt like you’re kind of sucking hind teat as average joe if you pay to hunt with an outfitter that also hosts TV shows. Thoughts?
Depends on the situation. If they are filming they often get a great deal and are given the best areas just because of the advertisement it will bring. Plenty of celebrities pay to hunt yes. But sure they are a business, they aren’t going to let a celebrity have a bad time without trying hard. But there’s plenty of times that celebrities aren’t the wealthiest guy in camp either. My FIL has been in camp with Rex Tillerman and a couple celebrities at the same time. Sometimes you can’t make everyone happy.
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Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:32 am to 4EvEr Bo REIN
$2,640 I'm not Geaux, but that what WRE offers in Catahoula (and several other parishes).
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:11 am to White Bear
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Not everyone follows the outdoor industry and its related “celebrities”.
I grew up watching Bill Dance and Roland Martin, even to the point of buying a Red jump suit and having Mama sew fishing patches on it so I could look the part LOL. I finally realized how damned much work it was to take a dump wearing a jump suit and quit but I was ATE up with fishing shows when I was about 10.
Today if I wanted to be impressed with some dudes outdoor prowess show me some dude in his 40's making about $40K a year who can consistently come home from hunting public land with a decent deer or a limit of ducks....thats a HUNTING machine. These dudes running all over the country hunting on preserves and selling gadgets to weekenders don't impress me in the least....show me some old boy with a 14 foot riveted jon boat and 9.9 outboard, both older than he is, catching 3 and 4 pound bass consistently and he'd have my attention....I lost interest in Bill Dance and Roland Martin when they started catching ONLY 5 pounders in phosphate pits...hell anyone with access, a bucket of shiners and a trout pole (for the uninformed a cane pole about an inch across and about 8 feet long) can catch 10 pounders in those pits...I know, I snuck into them and did it as a kid.....having access to managed preserves and someone with a financial interest in making certain someone else has a good outdoor experience ain't impressive.....killing a turkey on a national forest with 300 people calling is highly impressive....
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:20 am to gumbodawg
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GB - do these celebrities pay when they hunt with outfitters? They sure seem to get the pick of the litter. I’ve always felt like you’re kind of sucking hind teat as average joe if you pay to hunt with an outfitter that also hosts TV shows. Thoughts?
You are not getting any outfitter, charter boat captain or guides best effort if you ain't a regular who has been with them for years and booked years in advance...you are just a paycheck. They will all do what they can to get you on fish or game but they'd be a fool to put you on their best when you are one off and another paying customer is a steady source of income....especially when it comes to hunting. If you earned your living by making certain people had a big time would you put some guy you never met on your best deer or would you save that deer for a regular? Fishing is a little different but the best trips will always be with someone who is a regular...it also helps if you can go when they call you.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:22 am to Gtmodawg
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40's making about $40K a year
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can consistently come home from hunting public land with a decent deer or a limit of ducks
what does a person income have to do with their "outdoor prowess"?
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:46 am to civiltiger07
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what does a person income have to do with their "outdoor prowess"?
Nothing other than the ability to buy access to better areas and more free time to scout and actually hunt. Also more income would allow for more / better equipment....its entirely possible with $30-$4K dollars of spare cash for someone who has never hunted anything in their lives to go out and shoot a trophy bull Elk....many people do something similar every year, but have some experience usually....and more like $5-$10K....
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:41 pm to geauxbrown
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Realtree has given millions of dollars to organizations like DU,
so, Bill Jordan installed the nets
that sonofabitch
Posted on 12/10/20 at 1:41 pm to Gtmodawg
Yeah I get that. Just saying that there are Midwest states like Iowa that take 4 years to get a tag. Not like you can be a “regular”. Then if you show up and see the truck with camper shell and wrap for the tv show parked at the lodge, it’s a little bit of a letdown because you know you are a second priority. Was curious if they also paid or not.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 2:51 pm to gumbodawg
"Promotional consideration provided by", money changes hands but it may not be straight up ka$h.
Strange that the number of hunting license continues to decrease annually ever with all of the glory hunt shows.
Strange that the number of hunting license continues to decrease annually ever with all of the glory hunt shows.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 5:58 pm to gumbodawg
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Do these celebs pay to hunt?
Most do not. It’s considered “in trade” or publicity for the outfitter. Realtree is a partner with HB on several projects, so I would assume they do not pay to hunt. As I mentioned they help out with several other projects that HB is associated with.
I consider Will Primos to be one is the smartest men in the outdoor industry. When he still owned Primos, they paid outright or at the very least a reduced price for the vast majority of hunts they filmed. Even the elk hunts that had to of been super expensive. I believe it was a big reason they were as successful as they were for so many years.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 6:01 pm to 4EvEr Bo REIN
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What’s WRP going for an acre...
I’m unsure on the price. I’m also unsure on the number of acres they have enrolled in the program. I’ve heard as much as 6,000 acres but don’t quote me on that.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 6:04 pm to Gtmodawg
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I grew up watching Bill Dance...
Me and you both brother. And I think your post nails the reason why YouTube channels like “The Hunting Public” are so popular now.
The cats kinda out of the bag on killing big deer on large private ground. It’s not that difficult. Just takes some prep and scouting and the ability to let them grow.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 6:22 pm to geauxbrown
All hunting shows are shite and are nothing but marketing propaganda. I will admit I’ve enjoyed my share of hunting tv in my younger days and it took me yrs to come to this conclusion.
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 12/10/20 at 6:34 pm to White Bear
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will admit I’ve enjoyed my share of hunting tv in my younger days and it took me yrs to come to this conclusion.
I think the first Whitetail video I ever watched was Bowhunting October Whitetails with Barry Wensel. I thought it was the greatest thing ever at the time.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:22 pm to KemoSabe65
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Strange the number of hunting numbers continues to decrease....
True. I think most of that is tied to kids spending so much more time in front of a video game or telephone than anything else.
My other reasoning behind it rubs some folks the wrong way. I’ll keep that to myself. LOL
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 12/10/20 at 7:22 pm to highcotton2
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Barry Wensel
Great video. Still watch it.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:28 pm to geauxbrown
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True. I think most of that is tied to kids spending so much more time in front of a video game or telephone than anything else
Dude I played video games till I literally fell asleep with a controller in my hand. That ain’t the reason
Hunting numbers are declining because of cryptic hunting regulations that vary by drastically by county in some states, litigation culture that discourages hunting permission on private land and unreasonable harvest expectations.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:44 pm to geauxbrown
Kids these days are soft?
I keep hearing that numbers are declining but man it sure doesnt seem that way.
Just about every western state and midwestern state had seen increase in hunting participation.
I keep hearing that numbers are declining but man it sure doesnt seem that way.
Just about every western state and midwestern state had seen increase in hunting participation.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:45 pm to Purple Spoon
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Hunting numbers are declining because of cryptic hunting regulations that vary by drastically by county in some states, litigation culture that discourages hunting permission on private land and unreasonable harvest expectations
I can agree with much of this. I talk about the video games because I've watched my nephews choose to stay at the house and play video games versus going out and hunting.
I would ask you to be specific regarding the "cryptic hunting regulations". 10 years ago it was difficult in many northern states to hunt as a young person. It simply wasn't allowed. These days, not so much. Also, I don't believe it's the litigation culture as much as it is the leasing culture. Not trying to be a jerk, I'm sincerely interested in learning more about the subject.
Large timber companies used litigation as an excuse to shut down public access to their lands, when the real reason centered around the fact that they figured out they could make money through leasing. Willamette did this on their 250,000 acres in Arkansas and Louisiana. That's a lot of folks looking for a place to hunt.
My Grandfather died in 1976. He always had a camp on the Tensas and was a long time member of 3 Buck Bayou Hunting Club. A membership in the 70's set him back around $200 each year. By the late 70's all the timber was gone and what was left would cost you $3,000 per year.
I remember him saying shortly before he died. "Eventually all hunting in America will be like it is in Europe. It will be an elitist sport for the wealthy alone."
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:50 pm to Huntinguy
Yea I thought it was up there. Now just times that with how many acres is enrolled in it. I’m sure it’s eye popping. Nice yearly check Lol
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