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re: Tyler Jordan killed a monster on Honeybreak?
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:51 pm to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:51 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Kids these days are soft?
I keep hearing that numbers are declining but man it sure doesnt seem that way.
Just about every western state and midwestern state had seen increase in hunting participation.
I'm not prepared to call the younger generation soft, at least not at my advanced age.
My boys love to hunt and as they've gotten older, they seem to love it more. For that I am truly thankful. On the hunter numbers decreasing, those figures come from the number of licenses sold each year.
You're correct about the midwest. I started working up there in the mid 90's. It's amazing to go to Illinois these days and see the number of out of state hunters.
Crazy.
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Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:54 pm to 4EvEr Bo REIN
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Yea I thought it was up there. Now just times that with how many acres is enrolled in it. I’m sure it’s eye popping. Nice yearly check Lo
Yep.
I know guys who bought chunks of ground in Tensas and Franklin Parishes back in the 90's on that program. At the time you couldn't find a deer on those tracts in Franklin. Now, they're covered up in the them.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:00 pm to geauxbrown
Well, a lease with a sophisticated landowner will usually include an indemnity from the lessee. Maybe the lease pays the property tax, and also provides security on the land. A win, win win for landowner I would say. Knowing who is on your property is a big benefit.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:03 pm to 4EvEr Bo REIN
quote:WRE Is a one time payment and that value $2640/ac is for a PERMANENT govt easement on the land. Roughly 75-80% of FMV.
Nice yearly check Lol
This post was edited on 12/10/20 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:07 pm to geauxbrown
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I don't believe it's the litigation culture as much as it is the leasing culture. Not trying to be a jerk, I'm sincerely interested in learning more about the subject
Let’s say there is an old dairy farmer down off Joe Blow road. Nobody has hunted the back 40 since Moses wore short pants. I go ask if I can hunt it.
30-40 years ago that guy might say, sure just don’t shoot any cows and give me a few packs of sausage. These days those kind of folks are a lot fewer and far between because of fear of someone getting hurt on their property and sued.
Another example, I have a family member that has a construction business and is set up as an LLC. He has 100 acres and stores his heavy equipment in a barn on that property. His professional liability insurance will drop his coverage on that barn and equipment if he allows hunting on the connecting property.
It’s easier to say no than to allow someone to hunt and worry about an issue.
Of course they are exceptions and there are people that stil do those things but it is fewer and farther between than it used to be.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:08 pm to geauxbrown
quote:. Do you believe this? If so, what is the cause?
I remember him saying shortly before he died. "Eventually all hunting in America will be like it is in Europe. It will be an elitist sport for the wealthy alone."
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:21 pm to White Bear
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. Do you believe this? If so, what is the cause
I certainly didn't want to for years, but when you look at the cost involved with being able to hunt quality ground, it's sometimes hard to argue.
I'd love to see someone pose a question on the OB about how hunting has changed for each of us and if we believe it to be for the better or worse. I know for me, I miss the days of being at the camp. That was so much a part of it. Lots of family and friends together.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:23 pm to Purple Spoon
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It’s easier to say no than to allow someone to hunt and worry about an issue
Can't argue with any of this. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:40 pm to geauxbrown
I know of a guy in his 50s who grew up in Kansas and is a big time outdoorsman. He saw his first deer at 13 years old. When we dream of the good old days, we often forget about vast areas of the country where deer had been killed out. Now we have deer all over the country.
And if a man doesn’t hunt quality ground, it’s because he chooses not to. There’s excellent public ground in every state. But it might require a great deal of effort to hunt it.
And if a man doesn’t hunt quality ground, it’s because he chooses not to. There’s excellent public ground in every state. But it might require a great deal of effort to hunt it.
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:59 pm to 257WBY
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And if a man doesn’t hunt quality ground, it’s because he chooses not to
I think public land is not nearly as utilized as people think.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:40 am to geauxbrown
The problem is that people don’t understand is that the dollar value has mostly staid the same. Land leases have basically staid the the same or increased slightly. The dollar has just weakened. What common people don’t know.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 5:13 am to baldona
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Nothing against Louisiana, but if you are a guy like a Jordan why are you hunting Louisiana for deer?
Ol boy killed a 180 class buck, that’s a damn good buck anywhere in the country That’s probably why he came to Louisiana
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 5:14 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 7:41 am to Ron Cheramie
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Ol boy killed a 180 class buck
No if I would have killed it I would still be riding it around showing it off lol.
Yeah I’m sure they have been talking about that hunt for a year or so and what kind of deal they could make on it let’s face it same thing we would all do if we were selling or if we were buying the hunt.
I saw Riley green (country singer) killed a big deer the same wknd and tagged Louisiana, I would bet that it will all be on the show.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:30 am to White Bear
THIS
Its a one time payment for a permanent easement. That figure is the current price to enroll in WRE in that parish.
Honey Brake went in in 2003 for a fraction of that. The original acreage of the WRP was just shy of 8,000. You can measure it on Google Earth if you are interested.
Its a one time payment for a permanent easement. That figure is the current price to enroll in WRE in that parish.
Honey Brake went in in 2003 for a fraction of that. The original acreage of the WRP was just shy of 8,000. You can measure it on Google Earth if you are interested.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:38 am to Huntinguy
quote:I will add there is a 30yr easement option and another option I think an even shorter-term deal, both of which entail a lesser payment to the landowner.
Its a one time payment for a permanent easement. That figure is the current price to enroll in WRE in that parish.
quote:I'd also add, and correct me if wrong, in the early days of WRP (now "WRE") the permanent easement value was 100% of FMV of the land. It's currently 75%-80% FMV for permanent.
Honey Brake went in in 2003 for a fraction of that. The original acreage of the WRP was just shy of 8,000. You can measure it on Google Earth if you are interested.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 9:53 am to White Bear
You are pretty much correct, however, if the landowner offered to take a reduced percentage of the appraised it factored into the "score" or likelihood of the easement being taken.
You could offer to accept a percentage less than 100 and it would improve your odds.
You could offer to accept a percentage less than 100 and it would improve your odds.
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