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Tips on training a blood tracking dog

Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:07 am
Posted by tigereye58
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:07 am
I just got a new lab puppy. The best blood tracking dog I've seen was a black lab. I'd like to train this puppy to blood track deer. I've trained a duck dog using Water Dog years ago. Any good books or websites for training blood tracking dogs?
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:10 am to
I taught a dachshund to blood trail with a tennis ball soaked in blood. after it got used to smelling the blood i switched to hiding a clean tennis ball and dripping a blood trail to it. Ended up being a good little blood dog that couldn't drag you around the woods. It belonged to my ex so i screwed that up lol
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:13 am to
Keep and freeze deer livers. You can cut a piece off with a hacksaw and thaw it out.

Make him a little easy trail in the yard and leave the prize at the end. Get more challenging as he gets better, let him find some deer no matter how easy the track is. Labs pick up on it very easy and they're very good at it. It's easier than training a duck dog, just takes time and a commitment to put him on as many deer as you can.

If you don't plan to get a GPS collar, put a bell on him before you start a track every time, and not for anything else. He'll know the bell means time to track deer, and it'll help you track him. Mine knows when the collar goes on, it's time to find deer.
Posted by Spider John
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:18 am to
interested in this as well. My dad got a lab puppy back in november and he is currently at a training school. Whe, he gets back next month, this is definitely something i would like to teach him. I have heard that its good to save alot of deer blood in water bottles and freeze them. When ready to train them, just dribble a trail leading up to a deer leg/shank. then give them a treat. seems simple enough.
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:22 am to
I picked up a rescue from Cgrand this spring. I am gonna start her on blood trails this year. She doesn't quite have the fire that I was looking for in a lab. But then again, I don't have the getup and go that I used to have either.

I would love to share training ideas with you.

This is her from last week. Went to check in at the Battlehouse in Mobile. Turned around and she was asleep on the cool marble floor.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:24 am to
Liver is the best thing. Deer you have to track (and actually have a chance to find) are often liver shot and it's got a distinct smell.

IMO, sticking to just a blood drip isn't the best thing. The dog is going to track the deer, not just blood. I prefer dragging something that's got some blood/liver on it.

It all works though. A freshly shot deer is cake for a dog to smell and track, it just needs to know that's what you want it to do. It gets tougher with things like long times between shot and track, or plenty people tromping around causing a distraction and messing the track up. It just takes time and practice and a dog with some drive.

Mines really good at it and I have more fun tracking deer than I do shooting them.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:31 am to
You have a hound correct? Been thinking of getting a catahoula for tracking.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:38 am to
Half lab half bloodhound.

I tried a purebred working bloodhound and it didn't work. She was far more interested in running something than finding something dead. Hell of a nose but if she jumped a deer while on the track she was going to run it out of the country and I couldn't break her of it.

I think a hound/lab cross is perfect. Hound nose with lab demeanor and far less chase than a purebred hound.

We had a blue lacy which is basically a Texas catahoula and she was pretty good. She didn't have the nose my dog now has and he's found some deer she wouldn't have but she was smart and easy to handle. She found several deer. My uncles lacy has found several also. I think hearding/treeing dogs work fine with some effort. They're far easier to track with on a leash than a big block headed lab cross if you're planning to leash track.

If you're going to get a dog strictly for tracking shot deer, get some type of 50% or more lab mutt or a purebred lab. Hoss is our 4th tracking dog and I'd say he's every bit twice as good as the 2nd best one was. Labs are boring because everybody's got one, but they're so easy to work with and they don't get credit for good their noses are.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 10:41 am
Posted by fillmoregandt
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:43 am to
Take him on every blood trail this fall, especially easy ones when you know the deer is dead 50 yards into the woods. And celebrate every time he finds one like he just won the powerball. Make it seem like a huge deal every time, and he'll quickly learn that finding the dead deer = celebration


My best tip:
Get a separate collar and attach a bell on it. Only put it on him when it's time to track. He'll learn to associate that bell with tracking, as well as making it easier for you to follow along. My Boykin goes nuts when I pull out his tracking collar because he knows he's about to go to work on something fun
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 10:46 am
Posted by JPB
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:51 am to
I have a rescue hound that has done really well and is currently at 100% in finding deer. Most have been good kill shots though.

One thing you want to keep in mind is a tracking dog is going to be the most beneficial on a poor shot with little to no blood. At least to the eye. For this reason, I found that using a deer hide is the best training tool.

I started him with some blood on the hide and very simple tracks. Straight lines usually less than 20 yards. We gradually made those more difficult and longer.

We then moved to hide only with no blood. Again, simple straight lines of less than 20 yards and gradually made them more difficult.

Eventually, a good tracking dog, will be able to track based off the smell of hide, freshly disturbed dirt/leaves, and whatever blood/DNA falls on the trail.

The most difficult thing with my hound was getting him motivated and in the mindset of "time to track." I guess that's just part of a hound's stubborn nature.

You can check out Dog Bone Game Recovery System if you want to get started this summer and are out of blood/hides
Posted by swanny297
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:55 am to
Buy the Dog Bone recovery system, this is what I started with and it gives some good pointers. I started mine out of deer season so I just used beef liver and would ask a butcher to save me some blood. The main thing I worked early was staying on track and distractions, I have a GSP and like labs they can get easily distracted as puppies and there are lots of distractions in the woods.

Like others have said once deer season starts take the pup on as many tracks as possible but start with tracking short distances on deer that have been located.
Posted by tigereye58
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:59 am to
Can I thaw a piece of meet and use it like the liver until I kill something fresh this year? Just prepping a roast leaves blood and wasted meat/ tissue. Will this work as a start?

He's only 10 weeks old. I'm working on obedience training right now. Is it too soon to start blood tracking?

When he finds the piece of liver is it ok for him to eat it. I know most of the time they are going to lick the wound when they find it. Is the liver considered a treat or reward?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:03 am to
My bloodhound (deceased) would have laughed at your lab.
Posted by swanny297
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:04 am to
Yes when you thaw out deer meat save scraps and blood. 10wks may be a little early but you can always drag and see how the pup does.

Take some scraps, soak them in blood. Tie them to a string and do a short straight drag. Walk the pup down the drag and see how he does. When I started I always left my drag at the end as a reward.
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:07 am to
Friend of mine has a dachshund at his camp that has tracked something like 200 deer in 12 years. Crazy little bastard
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:29 am to
Yea anything works, especially for a pup.

10 weeks isn't too young for some very easy tracks with a prize at the end. Put it in the yard and let him go and see if he figures it out while he's dicking off. You may be surprised.
Posted by PhioftheTiger1915
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Take him on every blood trail this fall, especially easy ones when you know the deer is dead 50 yards into the woods. And celebrate every time he finds one like he just won the powerball. My best tip: Get a separate collar and attach a bell on it. Only put it on him when it's time to track. He'll learn to associate that bell with tracking, as well as making it easier for you to follow along.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head right here. I would also do as other have suggested and keep a little blood and a liver or legs when you kill a deer to train him on your own. The blood can be diluted with water, so you don't need much.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 4:04 pm to
Years ago I trained my yellow lab for this. I went to WLF and got some guts and blood from a confiscated deer, and a leg with the scent gland. Stir the guts and blood with the leg (scent gland down). Then walk in a line dabbing the mixture on the ground with the leg and hide the leg at the end of the trail you made. Start of easy with short straight lines with the leg in plain site, and get more complex with it as you go. Of course give rewards and praise when the dog finds the leg.
Posted by possumgritz
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:48 pm to


This is the Bible for blood tracking with dogs. I refer to it frequently during the season and usually re-read before start of the season.

Liver drags is the way to go. Make it a fun game for the dog. Once they figure out the game, the biggest hurdle is learning to read your dog and most importantly trust their nose. I try to learn something every track. My biggest "break through" moment was when I realized that, as her handler, I am the weakest link of our team. They will do what they'll do, it's my job to read her body language and not screw her up.

Always stay positive while on track. There's some voodoo that makes my inner doubts of a successful track travel from me and then infect her with the same doubts. If you decide to work with any dog for tracking, put the time in and be willing to travel long distances for friends, family or whoever needs help for your dogs sake. They will benefit with every track you do, but you will benefit just as much if not more.

One more thing.....be ready to experience some of the most exhilarating and rewarding experiences you will ever have in the outdoors. There is nothing better than finding a kids first deer and see the pure joy you helped to provide them and their parent. My pup has found 4 different kids first deer and I get choked up just thinking about it.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:57 pm to
Great point about learning to read and trust the dog.

After 9 years of chasing our dog through the woods, me and the old man can usually tell within a few minutes if we're finding that deer dead or not. Somehow, the dog knows very quickly.
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