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re: Thoughts on a warning shot
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:55 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:55 am to Chad504boy
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So its better if he assumed i'm just an unarmed home owner? I see your points though and this was the point of the thread to find the pluses and minsues.
With how corrupt NOPD has been at times, I would absolutely NOT risk being behind bars.
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Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:56 am to bapple
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I never advocate for a warning shot. Even though the Vice President of the USA stated that you should fire two blasts, this could get you in tons of trouble. It is literally a felony to discharge a weapon in a residential area.
If the perp is far away from you and hauling arse, you have successfully ended the threat. There is no need to fire an errant shot at him as he runs away. Unless you can prove you were actually shooting at an intruder, you'll probably be facing a felony charge.
Now, if you are in your house, all bets are off. If he is in your castle, you do what you have to do to protect yourself and your family.
I have read way too many stories where warning shots have been detrimental to the good guys. I highly advise you don't do it.
My warning shot question would only be outside if he was running away type deal, not shootin at him but sending a message. I know its against the law to discharge in a residential area, not sure how the cops would look towards this.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:57 am to Charter n Coke
Firing the weapon after the threat has stopped (him running away) probably wouldn't end well. I'm by no means able to give legal advice, but it just seems like a waste of a bullet. Plus you could be adding "discharge of a weapon in city limits" to yourself. How can you prove that there was an intruder and you weren't just shooting in your backyard to piss off your neighboors?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 11:57 am to Chad504boy
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My warning shot question would only be outside if he was running away type deal, not shootin at him but sending a message. I know its against the law to discharge in a residential area, not sure how the cops would look towards this.
My advice is don't do it. Period.
If he is hauling arse running from you away from your property, you have successfully ended the threat.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:13 pm to Charter n Coke
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You shoot into the ground, the yguy running away is either in the underground gun trade and now knows whose house to rob for said guns. Or what if he is just a thug POS with thug POS buddies, and thinks you are shooting at him when he may or may not have been just hiding in your bushes with no intent of harming you or yours. Now he wants retaliation, in the form of raping you and yours..
Or you could be warning a drunk teenager trying to not get busted for underage drinking.
Shots from gun are the new "get off my lawn".
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:18 pm to Chad504boy
Joe Biden agrees with firing a warning shot. In fact, he says to use two of them. Joe Biden is an idiot.
Shoot to kill or don't shoot at all.
Shoot to kill or don't shoot at all.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:20 pm to tigerfoot
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Shots from gun are the new "get off my lawn".
I just hate how so many people judge what they should do off movies.
Here's what movies taught me about defensive encounters:
1. A single bullet from any firearm (pistol, rifle, shotgun) will immediately kill someone, no matter where it hits them.
2. If I face a perp, we should point our guns at each other and have a stand-off before one of us gives a good one liner and pulls the trigger.
3. If someone is in my house unarmed, they will immediately freeze or run if I point my gun at them.
4. If they run away, shoot at their feet to say "...and STAY out!"
5. You should always rack your shotgun after the person has stepped into your house and make sure he or she can hear it.
6. If you have an exposed hammer on your gun, make sure you leave it down so that you can cock it back when you're aiming at your nemesis.
If we followed all the advice movies give us, a lot more good guys would be in jail.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:21 pm to Chad504boy
If it went down like you said in the OP, I would say the weapon accidentally went off into the ground because you forgot to take your finger off the trigger in the heat of the moment.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:24 pm to RATeamWannabe
My first shot (at 1st perp) will be the warning shot for anyone else still in my house or trying to get in my house.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:29 pm to Chad504boy
If he's running away, that's what you want. Let the cops go track him down and arrest him. You just want him to leave with no harm done to you or your family.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:32 pm to Nodust
So what if said gun shells were filled with black eyed peas or rock salt? Its a warning shot but not deadly force.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:34 pm to Chad504boy
a warning shot ranks right up there with the sound of chambering a round....
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:37 pm to bapple
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I never advocate for a warning shot. Even though the Vice President of the USA stated that you should fire two blasts
Yea our Vice President is a genius! This comment by him was literally one of the dumbest things I have ever heard!
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:43 pm to bulldog95
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My first shot (at 1st perp) will be the warning shot for anyone else still in my house or trying to get in my house.
If you're shooting them through your door, that's a different scenario. If they are trying to force entry into your home, that is an acceptable means of defending yourself.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:47 pm to bapple
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If we followed all the advice movies give us, a lot more good guys would be in jail.
Right, and the rolling of houses would lead to mass killings.
I guess the old saying is right, 'give a guy a hammer and everything starts looking like a nail" Give a guy a gun and errybody is there to rape, pillage and kill.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:08 pm to Chad504boy
If he's planning on coming back I'd rather he not know I have guns until it's too late. It's better he bring a knife than a gun next time. He may also be more willing to risk coming back for firearms than for a laptop or a bigscreen. He failed and has two options try somewhere else or get better prepared and try again. I can't see any positives and several negatives to a warning shot.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:30 pm to Nodust
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If he's running away, that's what you want. Let the cops go track him down and arrest him. You just want him to leave with no harm done to you or your family.
^^^^^^ This. Period.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:38 pm to Chad504boy
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Basically what i mean, you had a possible intruder or whatever on your property. He's caught by you and he's running away.
Is he wearing a collar?
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:38 pm to Chad504boy
quote:In Texas, yes you can as long as he has possession of your property...shoot 'em square in the back if you want.
He's caught by you and he's running away. Obviously we can't shoot to kill him running away
Here is one example.
Though I'm not an advocate of warning shots, I might do so in the situation you described.
Perhaps fire into the ground in front of me. If the police are involved, say that you were face-to-face with the guy and fired into the ground to scare him off because you didn't want to hurt anybody.
Excellent scenario to contemplate.
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:41 pm to Chad504boy
whatever you do, DON'T TELL THE COPS ANYTHING!
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