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re: The state of the outdoors in Louisiana, how will it be for our kids/grandkids? Long read

Posted on 1/1/24 at 6:28 am to
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19307 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 6:28 am to
I own a small piece of land in North La, I've had cameras out for years and the biggest buck on it might push 140-150".

I'm starting to think one paid hunt to Kansas and a chance at a 160+ might be a better investment than keeping corn out, traveling back and forth, dealing with trespassing rednecks on and on.
Posted by MobileJosh
On the go
Member since May 2018
1063 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 7:42 am to
To be honest, you sound like the type of clueless idiot who makes public land hunting unbearable. So, uh, look in the mirror.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19493 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:01 am to
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I guess Fred Bear was doing the same with his old videos


Not sure. I know the old Bear films showed he and his friends hunting together in Michigan. They were in camp fellowshipping and if memory serves me correctly, Fred killed smaller bucks.

Guess my point is, Bear’s work represented deer hunting in a very pure and simple form. After watching those old films I wasn’t thinking about camo or cameras or food plots. I just wanted to get a Bear bow and start hunting with my buddies.

quote:

So maybe filmed started the ball rolling


100%, but television more so than video or film. In 21 minutes every Hunter seemingly killed a P&Y deer, creating a less than realistic situation.

I have landowners now who have expectations of growing 150” deer that simply can’t be achieved no matter the amount of money and management thrown at it.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19493 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:06 am to
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The Torch


One quality hunting experience for yourself or with your family or friends is worth so much.

I started going to the Midwest years ago looking for that quality. Not necessarily to kill a big deer but to be able to see deer in a semi relaxed state.

The memories we made on those short hunts are still some of our favorites to this day
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5602 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:30 am to
I’ve heard or seen the following first hand from Louisiana hunters-
Having six buck tags because wife has a license, but doesn’t hunt.
Deer hunting Kansas without a deer tag
Killing a Kansas buck, yet continuing to hunt for another one
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5164 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 8:38 am to
Preach Baw
Had a grandpas and his two grandsons 14&16 on the boat week ago, both stayed on their phones or laid down to fish. Both were raised by the internet not their divorced parents. Instant gratification and pressing the do over button is real today.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1590 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 11:57 am to
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be honest, you sound like the type of clueless idiot who makes public land hunting unbearable. So, uh, look in the mirror.


Not enjoying being shot at doesn’t make me an idiot. I never called law enforcement on anyone. I was actually even cordial, probably too much. I yelled to get their attention they were shooting towards me and my son though
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4603 posts
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:48 pm to
You sound like a very unlucky person, I'd stay out of the woods for sure!

If I had to hunt public land, I'd probably hang it up. Stick to your 100 acres.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30609 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Hunting numbers will continue to decline due to hunter safety course requirements.


Hunter numbers going down due the urbanization and suburbanization of our society and absent dads
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25992 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 5:31 pm to
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Hunter numbers going down due the urbanization and suburbanization of our society and absent dads


I don't disagree with you nor do I disagree with the technology point the poster above you had but it does make it a lot more difficult to get people interested in hunting when you have to sit through a class. The more impediments the government imposes to hunt the harder it is to attract new people into hunting. Overtime those impediments mean fewer and fewer people get exposed to hunting.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5978 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 7:38 am to
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don't disagree with you nor do I disagree with the technology point the poster above you had but it does make it a lot more difficult to get people interested in hunting when you have to sit through a class. The more impediments the government imposes to hunt the harder it is to attract new people into hunting. Overtime those impediments mean fewer and fewer people get exposed to hunting.

Hunter safety is nothing new . I took it in the early 90’s and it was a 2 day class back then. The kids now a days don’t have the patience and it’s not an instant gratification for them.
My son who is 14 took it during the summer on his own . If a kid wants to hunt they will take it.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13905 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:13 am to
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The more impediments the government imposes to hunt the harder it is to attract new people into hunting. Overtime those impediments mean fewer and fewer people get exposed to hunting.
This is the important part of what he said and it’s absolutely true.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
4127 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:19 am to
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Private leases seem to have become too much bickering over rules and whatnot for me to really consider getting back into a lease, unless it’s only family.


That's why I got a lease with me as the lease owner. I've got buddies that hunt occasionally but other than them nobody. It's great. 80 Acres in Webster for about half what I would have paid to be in a hunting club in the same area. It's small, but killing deer is no big problem, and since my neighbors and I are all in sync about letting little bucks grow, we're getting some serious wallhanger material showing up on cameras. Guy next door to me shot a legit 155 8pt that went into Louisiana Sportsman.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 6:59 pm
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13905 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:26 am to
Dude, loose lips sink ships bro.
Posted by Guess_who
Member since Dec 2018
160 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 2:58 pm to
Haven't hunted Louisiana yet but have hunted most other states and have been traveling since the 90s. Social media has ruined it and no it will not ever get better. Turkeys were my first love and NOBODY hardly hunted them. Now there's jackwagons everywhere with a Shotgun. States are already going to a draw system and eventually every state will be a draw.

ONX and ebikes have ruined a lot of areas. The fear of getting lost is gone and now the 300lb fat arse can ride back to areas in 30 minutes that would take me 2.5 hours to walk.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25006 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 3:21 pm to
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I think video games and smartphones are a detriment to getting kids out in the woods and in deer stands.
My grandsons are obsessed with that shite.They don’t want to go sit in the woods,they want to sit in the house and play video games.


Trust me when I tell you that is not all kids.
There are some kids that would rather be outside playing or fishing or hunting or whatever. My son is a perfect example. He's 17 almost 18 now. He used his own money to get into a duck lease in AR with some of his buddies. He's hunting just about every weekend. Last year he would go to our place and deer hunt or go with his buddies and duck hunt.

There are a lot of kids that prefer playing games inside, but there are still some that would rather be outside, thankfully...
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