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re: The Official Kayak Thread

Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:43 am to
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:43 am to
There a local trading site with a good deal on an Ocean Kayak tandem. I think I read that it can be fished solo as well. Worth the hassle? Not sure how much I'd use it, so not looking to drop a ton of $
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2898 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:43 am to
I've been wanting to get a fishing kayak for a few years but haven't pulled the trigger.

We normally canoe on the buffalo or other shallow rivers around NWA but I've never used a kayak. What I'm not sure about is how a "fishing" kayak handles in shallow/rougher water? Are they meant more for open water like a lake?

I'd like to get a couple of tandems that would serve well for recreational floats and fishing as well, if that's an option. Been looking at FeelFree ever since I saw it posted on this thread a few years back.

Any thoughts or things I should consider? Basically do I need a separate kayak for fishing vs one for floating.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87308 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Basically do I need a separate kayak for fishing vs one for floating.
I would not think so.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28510 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:47 am to
quote:

That drive will struggle in the marsh

How's that?


Because of how shallow the marsh gets. At least with Jackson the drive will kick up automatically when hitting something. The Old Town would worry me. With my Hobie I can raise the fins up and still operate it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87308 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:49 am to
quote:

The Old Town would worry me
Ah.

Natives kick up quite easily.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15972 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 9:59 am to
Look at all those red breasted spotted greengill sun perch.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28510 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:04 am to
quote:

The Old Town would worry me

Ah. 

Natives kick up quite easily.


Didn't mention Native because I wasn't sure. I personally wouldn't buy the Old Town simply because Pack and Paddle doesn't sell it. I would have to buy from Dick's. Yuk!
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25737 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I personally wouldn't buy the Old Town simply because Pack and Paddle doesn't sell it. I would have to buy from Dick's. Yuk!



Cabela's sells Old Town
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6954 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:27 am to
quote:

I've been wanting to get a fishing kayak for a few years but haven't pulled the trigger.

We normally canoe on the buffalo or other shallow rivers around NWA but I've never used a kayak. What I'm not sure about is how a "fishing" kayak handles in shallow/rougher water? Are they meant more for open water like a lake?

I'd like to get a couple of tandems that would serve well for recreational floats and fishing as well, if that's an option. Been looking at FeelFree ever since I saw it posted on this thread a few years back.

Any thoughts or things I should consider? Basically do I need a separate kayak for fishing vs one for floating.


There are several fishing kayaks geared towards river fishing, but realistically most fishing kayaks around 12' will do the job.

The Old Town Predator MX (what I have), The Jackson Coosa, and the Native Slayer 12 XC are all fishing kayaks geared toward rivers and mixed use/small waters. The Native Ultimate 12 is a canoe/kayak hybrid that is completely at home in small rocky rivers as well. If you're coming from a canoe, it's your closest option and a helluva boat.

I have fished rivers in SE OK that are very similar to the rivers in NWA in my Predator MX and am very pleased with how it handles.

Predator MX and Native Ultimate 12


Decent idea of the rivers I'm talking about:




ETA: I'd be hesitant to get a tandem kayak for floating rivers. They won't turn as well as a canoe. They only one I'd consider is the Native Ultimate 14.5 Tandem. My buddy fishes all kinds of rivers in a solo Ultimate 14 so I imagine the tandem would be capable of it as well.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 10:38 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87308 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:29 am to
Predator PDL Angler looks pretty sweet.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28510 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:33 am to
I also like the WS Radar 135. The drive has a lever that easily raises it. N08 has one, but he's been banned. Lol
Posted by ManUFan
Mandeville, LA
Member since Sep 2017
135 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:36 am to
Has anyone fished Burns Point Park south of Centerville down highway 317? I am planning on fishing Saturday morning and I don't want to drive really far. Possibly a trip to Cypremort Point? Lefty, you interested?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87308 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:37 am to
quote:

I also like the WS Radar 135
Walked into PnP expecting to buy this, but since it was for my kid(haha) we had to buy the Native due to the fact that he really could not reach the peddles well on the Wildy.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28510 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:43 am to
I'd like to demo one. They have a large cockpit and tankwell which I like.

ManuFan,
We were talking about Crab Lady again. We'll watch the weather.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 10:47 am
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2898 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 10:59 am to
Thanks for the info. Yeah very similar to some of the water we go thru.

quote:

ETA: I'd be hesitant to get a tandem kayak for floating rivers. They won't turn as well as a canoe. They only one I'd consider is the Native Ultimate 14.5 Tandem


Good to know. The reason for a tandem is I have young kids that aren't old enough to handle a yak themselves. Even with the lack of maneuverability I figured a kayak would be more stable than a canoe and more enjoyable for them to ride in.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87308 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:04 am to
quote:

The reason for a tandem is I have young kids that aren't old enough to handle a yak themselves
My wife used to set up a portable seat in a Commander(similar to Ultimate) for our kid. Worked just fine.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3883 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Predator PDL Angler looks pretty sweet.


I am about 80% sure I am going to get one. It really depends on what I can get for my Compass. The only problem is that there are no dealers close by in case any warranty issues pop up.
Posted by BK Kush
Member since Jul 2015
100 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:40 am to
Thanks for the input.
Posted by stoms
Coastal
Member since May 2012
1729 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:42 am to
Curious, why selling your compass so quick? Just came out right? Is the instant reverse the whole reason?
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3883 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 11:58 am to
I liked fishing out of the PDL better and I think it will better fit my fishing needs. I am a trout fisherman so the little deeeper draft doesn’t bother me as I don’t like to chase Redfish.

Reasons for me wanting to switch:
- Instant reverse
- Less fatigue from peddling instead of the “pushing” motion of the mirage drive
- deeper hull sides and 36” width made it feel more stable. (I still feel confident standing in the Compass though)
- Sealed drive well. The PDL drive locks and seals the hull so there is no water intrusion.
- more comfortable seat

Reasons for hesitation:
- I just paid $2,500 for my other boat
- light weight of the compass is a huge plus
- no local dealers to provide service
- grass catching the propeller drive
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