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re: The Fly Fishing Thread: Questions, pics, discussion all here
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:10 pm to Polar Pop
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:10 pm to Polar Pop
Been wanting to get into fishing coastal inland and salt water. Only been fishing freshwater streams & rivers for trout and small mouth. But may take some time to acclimate as I only fish with either 4x or 5x weight line and use 6x sometimes for small mouth. People in here talking about 20-60lb weight line. Should be a fun transition.
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 5:47 pm to TideWarrior
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TideWarrior
Me too - we aren't too far from each other so we might can meet up. I have a bit going on right now but at some point I'd like to get into saltwater fishing for reds. I will likely be hauling my boat over when I actually am able to go.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 7:54 pm to Polar Pop
Polar, I haven't been, but I think Orvis does a good job with the class.
Other options are to join a local club and let them know you are a new guy trying to learn. My son learned a good bit from our local club. I only knew enough to get him in trouble.
My son went to a man's farm lake one day and taught the man and several of his friends the basics of fly fishing, as they were going a a trip soon.
Other options are to join a local club and let them know you are a new guy trying to learn. My son learned a good bit from our local club. I only knew enough to get him in trouble.
My son went to a man's farm lake one day and taught the man and several of his friends the basics of fly fishing, as they were going a a trip soon.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 8:03 pm to AubieALUMdvm
IMHO the two are night and day. I've I had to choose between the two I'd never look at freshwater again if that's what it took.
Most saltwater fly fishing is more hunting than fishing. Completely different experience.
I really have don't that much saltwater fly fishing but enough to get completely hooked. I've caught tarpon, snook, trout, bluefish in NY and mackerel/ barracuda in Florida. Tried bonefishing in my own and had one on top of it but didn't know I should strip. Oh well. Oh, got to meet Andy Mills on the trip. It was pretty neat to say the least.
If you go saltwater and catch anything get ready to spend a bunch of money.
Most saltwater fly fishing is more hunting than fishing. Completely different experience.
I really have don't that much saltwater fly fishing but enough to get completely hooked. I've caught tarpon, snook, trout, bluefish in NY and mackerel/ barracuda in Florida. Tried bonefishing in my own and had one on top of it but didn't know I should strip. Oh well. Oh, got to meet Andy Mills on the trip. It was pretty neat to say the least.
If you go saltwater and catch anything get ready to spend a bunch of money.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 8:37 am to bbvdd
So I was at Cabela's yesterday and the Prestige is not on sale, but the Wind River is $77.99, normally $129. Talked to a guy there very knowledgeable about fly fishin, and as I imagined just like anything else, there's tricks to the trade.
Very interesting, had no idea about tapered leaders, here I was thinking I'd just use some 6 lb. mono as a leader. Also mentioned tippin the leader with some additional small diameter mono line (little packs sold in the fly fishin section) so as not to keep cuttin back on the tapered leaders, i.e. make the leaders last longer.
Looked like with the combo, some leaders and a few flies out of the grab bin, I could start for about $100.
So my question is, for a beginner tryin to snag a few bream, maybe a bass, how many extras are really necessary?
Very interesting, had no idea about tapered leaders, here I was thinking I'd just use some 6 lb. mono as a leader. Also mentioned tippin the leader with some additional small diameter mono line (little packs sold in the fly fishin section) so as not to keep cuttin back on the tapered leaders, i.e. make the leaders last longer.
Looked like with the combo, some leaders and a few flies out of the grab bin, I could start for about $100.
So my question is, for a beginner tryin to snag a few bream, maybe a bass, how many extras are really necessary?
Posted on 4/13/17 at 8:47 am to purplengold98
I just got the 9ft 5wt Wind River combo for $77.
It comes loaded with backing, line and leader, ready to roll out of the box.
I picked up a few rolls of small tippet @ $4 each, 2 pack of spare leader @ $4 and a few poppers for bream to start with.
Minus shipping I am right at $100 to start out with on the water.
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It comes loaded with backing, line and leader, ready to roll out of the box.
I picked up a few rolls of small tippet @ $4 each, 2 pack of spare leader @ $4 and a few poppers for bream to start with.
Minus shipping I am right at $100 to start out with on the water.
[/url] Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:55 am to AubieALUMdvm
I would be game for that. 
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:58 am to TideWarrior
My understanding in gear the biggest difference in freshwater it is more about the rod and in salt water it is more about the reel. Hence why saltwater reels are so much more expensive.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:35 am to TideWarrior
Posted in wrong thread. Delete please.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 10:36 am
Posted on 4/13/17 at 10:51 am to TideWarrior
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My understanding in gear the biggest difference in freshwater it is more about the rod and in salt water it is more about the reel. Hence why saltwater reels are so much more expensive.
That's kinda true, but not really. Rod selection is equally as important in both fresh and salt, and a much larger emphasis is placed on fly rod selection than conventional rod selection. The difference lies in the fact that reel selection (and certain components of reels) is more important in saltwater than fresh.
For example, saltwater fish often run harder, faster, and longer than freshwater fish. So, it's important to have a reel with smooth startup inertia. This is also the reason that it's important for saltwater reels to generally have larger arbors than freshwater reels.
Further, regardless of what some people say, it's my opinion that a sealed drag is next to imperative when fishing saltwater. Saltwater is corrosive and destructive to the tenth degree. So, saltwater reel manufacturers have designed reels with high quality, sealed drag systems.
When you start adding all of those design elements up, things get expensive. None of this is to say that you can't go out and catch a redfish on a Battenkill. It's just an example of why saltwater reel selection is (IMO) more important than freshwater reel selection, and why they cost more (on average...there are obviously exceptions) than freshwater reels.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:03 pm to bluemoons
I agree and that is what I was told regarding the reel. Yes I am sure you still need a good rod for salt but I use a battenkill for fresh and no need for anything else. My investment in the rod for fresh is the main expense.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:13 pm to TideWarrior
You can get by a cheap rig . Quality rods are just important. You also don't have to spend top dollar to get good quality. That's why y'all hear me harping on the BVK so much.
. Quality rods are just important. You also don't have to spend top dollar to get good quality. That's why y'all hear me harping on the BVK so much.Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:17 pm to bluemoons
Has anyone here flyfished for pompano in the Florida panhandle? I've seen that the guy that does Sandbar Flies seems to be pretty into them. I might be in the area for a week mid-May and am considering bringing my 8 weight along but I have no clue how to look or fish for them.
Posted on 4/13/17 at 8:43 pm to LSUtiger17
The above post with $100 rigs are in good shape. You can spend much more, but you are ready to give it a shot. FYI-the glass rods Cabelas sells are a lot of fun for bream.
Posted on 4/14/17 at 8:41 am to LSUtiger17
I'm heading down there today and bringing my 8 weight. I think the best place to start is looking for "different" areas along the beach. Places where the depth changes quickly in a stretch that's different than the rest of the beach. A lot of times they'll hang out in the trough between or directly bordering that first sandbar, could be hard to get to them in this area. Pompano aren't afraid to get in really skinny water either though. I'm going to sight fish then if I can but suspect I'll end up doing a lot of blind casting. Quick sinking flies are a necessity because they're primarily bottom feeders.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 8:40 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Taking off work wednesday so I can actually get on the water for the first time.
My pond is loaded with bream, but I have a few bass in the neighborhood pond that ai might hit Wednesday afternoon.
I got a few of these flies that seem to be general recommendations, anything Im missing?
My pond is loaded with bream, but I have a few bass in the neighborhood pond that ai might hit Wednesday afternoon.
I got a few of these flies that seem to be general recommendations, anything Im missing?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:07 pm to Polar Pop
That's a wooly bugger that you have. They catch fish and lots of trout but for some reason I catch a lot more bream with the wooly worm.
Only difference is the wooly worm has a short red yarn tail as opposed to the long marabou tail
Only difference is the wooly worm has a short red yarn tail as opposed to the long marabou tail
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:16 pm to bbvdd
well tried 3 times today in fort Walton. Got on the water at 6:30 and the wind was already blowing 15mph. Didn't lay down until around sunset. Going to try again in the morning, supposed to be a lot calmer
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:22 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Good luck
ETA: any chance you can get to the bar and fish back to the beach? May be too far
ETA: any chance you can get to the bar and fish back to the beach? May be too far
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:36 pm to bbvdd
Not without swimming. I didn't even attempt the Gulf today, red flags were up. It was white capping in the bay too though. Supposed to be minimal wind tomorrow, haven't decided if I want to beat the crowds to the beach and try for pompano or just head to the bay and hope for a few reds.
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