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re: The Fly Fishing Thread: Questions, pics, discussion all here

Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:46 am to
Posted by sloopy
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:46 am to
Looking to start tying my own flies as I have tons of free time during the day.

I have nothing so I will need everything. Can anyone suggest a kit that will get me started with all the tools and materials I will need?
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 10:54 am to
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Can anyone suggest a kit that will get me started with all the tools and materials I will need?


I got a kit as a gift for my bday. The vise is hard to use as it wont stay tight. I won't use 3/4 of the material it came with. I suggest buying a separate vise, bobbin, scissors, whip finisher, and pick 3-4 patterns you want to start tying and buy smaller amount of material necessary.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 11:44 am to
First off, if you're looking to tie flies to save money, then keep buying pre-tied flies. Tying flies is likely a money losing proposition. If you want to tie so you can customize your flies, you're doing it for the right reasons. I've been tying my own flies for close to 30 years. I still consider myself an intermediate tier. (I was, however, invited to tie at a regional fly tying expo several years ago.) I've submitted a couple of fly patterns to some of the manufactures but they've never picked up any of my patterns. (They did release on that was eerily similar with difference materials... )

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I have nothing so I will need everything. Can anyone suggest a kit that will get me started with all the tools and materials I will need?


Stay away from the kits. The vises they sell in them are total junk and the tying materials aren't much better. Go ahead and spend a little money on a decent mid level vise. It will make the process much, much easier. The danvise is a decent entry to mid level vise, but be VERY CAREFUL with the jaws. They chip easily. Renzetti, regal and griffin are good brands. Your budget should be about $100 for your first vise.

Buy good scissors and a good bobbin or 3. Never ever cut wire with your good scissors.

There are about eleventy billion how to videos online. Find some (simple) patterns that you commonly use and follow along with them. Start with simple patterns and work on the accuracy of your wraps to start with. If you can do that, rest will come in time.

What species do you normally target?? If you target coldwater species, Cheeh and Curtis over at Fly Fish Food are buddies of mine. Cheech has forgotten more about fly tying than I've ever know. I've had the pleasure of fishing with both of them and they slay.

Good luck and tight lines.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 11:49 am
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:10 pm to
Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll mostly be tying for redfish and bass.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 3:11 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:18 pm to
What he said. I have a whole bunch of materials and don't get to fish as much as I use to. That will hopefully change before too long.

I have a Renzetti traveler and love it. It's a great vise. I've had it for probably close to 20yrs.

To start, I'd get materials to tie a hare's ear (rabbit mask), wooly bugger (chenille, maraboo, hackle, and weight).

Your 1st 20 will look ok. The main thing that you will learn is that less thread the better. I use a very thin thread (size 6/0).

from those two, you can learn the steps and build from there.

Deer hair flies are the hardest to tie (to me) but I love them.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:38 pm to
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Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll mostly be tying for redfish and bass.


Then the first fly you learn should be the Clouser . Once you get that one down, go from there.

For bass and panfish, inexpensive craft foam will be your friend. You can buy it in sheets for about $1 and cut it into lots of shapes.
This post was edited on 8/30/18 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 3:46 pm to
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Deer hair flies are the hardest to tie (to me) but I love them.


Do a Youtube search Kelly Gallop. He's the king of articulated streamers and uses deer hair on them A TON. His videos are long, but he's got some very useful tip for tying with deer hair. I had the pleasure of watching him tie an expo out here a few years back and he knows his stuff when it comes to big hairy flies.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 5:47 pm to
Yes, clouded is extremely easy and a very good fly.

I use to be very good at tying Whitlock deer hair flies. It’s one technique that you have to keep doing it to be good at it. You can not pack it tight enough. I’ll try to find a few and take some pics.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/30/18 at 8:15 pm to
Yeah, I'll have to find some photos and upload them...
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 9/4/18 at 2:32 pm to
Here's one of the patterns I came up with several years ago.

I called it "the Muppet". I've caught some nice largemouth's and even a couple of cutthroat on them..

This post was edited on 9/4/18 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 9/4/18 at 2:40 pm to
And here's a Kelly Gallop video on Thread control
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 11:25 am to
Got a handful on the fly Saturday morning before I had to hit the road for the game. Tide was low and fish were active for about an hr. Had a few not interested in the mullet so I tied on the crab and they started to chomp.

Nothing crazy big, but a few fun slots.


Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:39 pm to
Impressive, very well done pics.

Did you tie the crab flies? I'd like to tie some up

I can't seem to find the exact recipe for these but they look awesome - redfish croutons.

This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 2:41 pm
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:49 pm to
Nah, those are he sandbar crabs. I don’t have the time or patience to do that myself.


ETA: I took those pictures by myself, so thanks.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:01 pm to
Those don’t look too bad. I see mostly deer hair with various other dubbings and sparkle
Posted by Captain Ray
Member since Nov 2016
1589 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:41 pm to
The record breaking heat of the last few days sure has been depressing. I went through my bass box checked my flies and cleaned my lines with flote coat got all ready for my favorite fall season
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23967 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:38 pm to
Color me jealous. Never had the good fortune of catching a red fish on a fly....
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:16 pm to
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Color me jealous. Never had the good fortune of catching a red fish on a fly....



I think the only species that I like better on the fly would be steelhead.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:51 pm to
Here's a little work from this weekend

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 12:56 pm to
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Here's a little work from this weekend


Those are sweet! How do you do your weed guards?
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 12:57 pm
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