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re: The Fly Fishing Thread: Questions, pics, discussion all here
Posted on 10/24/18 at 8:13 am to Polar Pop
Posted on 10/24/18 at 8:13 am to Polar Pop
Thanks P.P.
FWIW, we fished the Norfork this summer when traveling cross country. We fished at the campground right below the dam. We "messed up" and let the kid fish Dry run creek first and didn't have a lot of time on the water before they turned the generators on.
I fished a 6 wt, with a 9ft 4x leader with a lead fly and an 18" dropper under a strike indicator. The fish didn't seem leader shy. Some split shot, indicators and tippet material from 3x-6x should cover you for terminal tackle.
I caught most of mine on a red zebra midge in like a 12 or 14? But that was in the heat of the summer. It's a great river, you'll love it.
FWIW, we fished the Norfork this summer when traveling cross country. We fished at the campground right below the dam. We "messed up" and let the kid fish Dry run creek first and didn't have a lot of time on the water before they turned the generators on.
I fished a 6 wt, with a 9ft 4x leader with a lead fly and an 18" dropper under a strike indicator. The fish didn't seem leader shy. Some split shot, indicators and tippet material from 3x-6x should cover you for terminal tackle.
I caught most of mine on a red zebra midge in like a 12 or 14? But that was in the heat of the summer. It's a great river, you'll love it.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 8:22 am
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 8:40 am to Lonnie Utah
Just got back from Fort Collins and did a little fly fishing in the Poudre River. Since it was our first time we got a guide from St. Peter’s fly shop and he taught us a bunch and now I’m hooked. The water was low so we weren’t able to hit the good runs, but still had a great time. These small ones were fun to catch, but I’m ready to catch some bigger fish.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 8:49 am to Head1
Hey all. I have an article in the most recent issue of Tail Fly Fishing Magazine about DIY fishing if any here are subscribed. If you guys aren't subscribed already, it's a very good saltwater subscription with lots of consistent, quality info.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 9:50 pm to bluemoons
Can you tell me more about the magazine? What's the nature of the articles usually? How big of a magazine?
Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:33 pm to AubieALUMdvm
The content is strictly saltwater-based. The issues have a consistently large amount of quality photos, travel/destination advice, general commentary, and technical fishing advice and commentary. The most recent issue was about 100 pages and had short biopics on well-known fishing-folks, fly tying and pattern advice, biologic content re: fish feeding in shallow water, and beer reviews + recipes. My article was more of a travel/destination article that involved some commentary on the state of fly fishing as influenced by social media/brand ambassadors/ads/etc. It's a very high quality magazine and I don't just say that because I contribute sometimes. The only subscriptions I have are Tail and Fly Fish Journal, and I prefer the Tail issues for the most part because they're more relatable.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:30 am to bluemoons
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The content is strictly saltwater-based. The issues have a consistently large amount of quality photos, travel/destination advice, general commentary, and technical fishing advice and commentary. The most recent issue was about 100 pages and had short biopics on well-known fishing-folks, fly tying and pattern advice, biologic content re: fish feeding in shallow water, and beer reviews + recipes. My article was more of a travel/destination article that involved some commentary on the state of fly fishing as influenced by social media/brand ambassadors/ads/etc. It's a very high quality magazine and I don't just say that because I contribute sometimes. The only subscriptions I have are Tail and Fly Fish Journal, and I prefer the Tail issues for the most part because they're more relatable.
is it possible to purchase a single issue? i didn't see the option online. would love to read your article, and this month's issue had an article about turks and caicos that i'd be interested to read. heading there in march and would prefer to DIY, given the insane cost of guides. already have hamilton's DIY Bonefishing, just looking for as many resources/info as i can get my hands on.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:38 am to Bunsbert Montcroff
Previous issues
This month’s issue may not be available yet but you can certainly buy older issues at will.
This month’s issue may not be available yet but you can certainly buy older issues at will.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:49 am to Bunsbert Montcroff
also thought I'd share a photo collage from a recent trip around the white mountains of arizona:
these all came on a single day, as my wife and i drove a big loop around arizona's white mountains. we hit streams and lakes along the way, got lost, got snowed and hailed on, and got into some healthy trout. these little fellows all went for copper johns sized 16-20. nothing else i put on worked, from streamers, dries, to other nymph patters.
top left is an apache trout, which can only be caught in arizona's white mountains. top right is a brownie of course, bottom left is an arctic grayling. those little fish put up quite a fight! he came out of a small lake at about 9500ft elevation. i assumed the bottom right was a rainbow, but i am thinking it is a rainbow x apache hybrid, especially because of the black "mask" or "band" across the eye. that is a hallmark of apache trout, and the creek that i caught them in is known for hybrids.
apart from these species, there are 3 other species of trout that call the white mountains home. obviously only the apache trout is native, but can't go wrong fishing a region with 7 different species of trout.
these all came on a single day, as my wife and i drove a big loop around arizona's white mountains. we hit streams and lakes along the way, got lost, got snowed and hailed on, and got into some healthy trout. these little fellows all went for copper johns sized 16-20. nothing else i put on worked, from streamers, dries, to other nymph patters.
top left is an apache trout, which can only be caught in arizona's white mountains. top right is a brownie of course, bottom left is an arctic grayling. those little fish put up quite a fight! he came out of a small lake at about 9500ft elevation. i assumed the bottom right was a rainbow, but i am thinking it is a rainbow x apache hybrid, especially because of the black "mask" or "band" across the eye. that is a hallmark of apache trout, and the creek that i caught them in is known for hybrids.
apart from these species, there are 3 other species of trout that call the white mountains home. obviously only the apache trout is native, but can't go wrong fishing a region with 7 different species of trout.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 9:51 am to Bunsbert Montcroff
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is it possible to purchase a single issue? i didn't see the option online. would love to read your article, and this month's issue had an article about turks and caicos that i'd be interested to read. heading there in march and would prefer to DIY, given the insane cost of guides. already have hamilton's DIY Bonefishing, just looking for as many resources/info as i can get my hands on.
I'm really not sure to be honest. Would keep checking like Stewie said. It may come available soon.
The article I just wrote for Tail has a bit of advice in it, but it's a lot of stream of consciousness bitching about fake social media stuff
. If you'd like to take a look at some actual advice, check out this link here: LINK Rod Hamilton's book is a good resource. I don't own it but I've looked through it. My advice re: that would be to explore beyond the book/what you find online. Spend a lot of time on google earth.
This is kind of difficult to explain on the internet, but there comes time with google earth where you can visualize the reality of what you're looking at on the computer screen. For example, when I look at a pond in the marsh on google earth, based on what surrounds it and based upon past photos (use the date tool to see imagery from previous years), I can pretty well tell you (a) how deep the pond is, (b) whether it holds grass, and generally (c) whether it's worth checking out. Flats fishing is the same way, and I've learned the same ability for flats and creek systems.
The chances of you learning that on your first trip are pretty slim, but pay attention to your surroundings the first flat you fish, and think about how it looked on google earth. Once you understand that relationship, you can look at a lot of other flats or creeks on google earth and make a fairly grounded assumption as to whether or not those locations are worth fishing. The problem is that picking a fishing spot is a gamble, because you've only got so much time there and your fishing ability/time depends entirely on the tide. So, if you spend a lot of time trying to get to a spot only to find out you blew it with the google earth prediction, then you've kinda blown your day.
I am always skeptical of publication, social media posts, or internet articles that blast specific locations, so while the Hamilton book is great for a base level of location knowledge, don't feel like that's all there is. Some of the best fishing I've found in the Caribbean has been in areas that I took a gamble on based on google earth.
I caught my biggest bonefish on a flat that was like 5 miles off the highway that I found on google earth and almost demolished my rental car trying to get to.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:31 am to stewie
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Previous issues
This month’s issue may not be available yet but you can certainly buy older issues at will.
awesome, thanks stewie i will check those out!
Posted on 10/25/18 at 10:34 am to bluemoons
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Rod Hamilton's book is a good resource. I don't own it but I've looked through it. My advice re: that would be to explore beyond the book/what you find online. Spend a lot of time on google earth.
This is kind of difficult to explain on the internet, but there comes time with google earth where you can visualize the reality of what you're looking at on the computer screen. For example, when I look at a pond in the marsh on google earth, based on what surrounds it and based upon past photos (use the date tool to see imagery from previous years), I can pretty well tell you (a) how deep the pond is, (b) whether it holds grass, and generally (c) whether it's worth checking out. Flats fishing is the same way, and I've learned the same ability for flats and creek systems.
The chances of you learning that on your first trip are pretty slim, but pay attention to your surroundings the first flat you fish, and think about how it looked on google earth. Once you understand that relationship, you can look at a lot of other flats or creeks on google earth and make a fairly grounded assumption as to whether or not those locations are worth fishing. The problem is that picking a fishing spot is a gamble, because you've only got so much time there and your fishing ability/time depends entirely on the tide. So, if you spend a lot of time trying to get to a spot only to find out you blew it with the google earth prediction, then you've kinda blown your day.
I am always skeptical of publication, social media posts, or internet articles that blast specific locations, so while the Hamilton book is great for a base level of location knowledge, don't feel like that's all there is. Some of the best fishing I've found in the Caribbean has been in areas that I took a gamble on based on google earth.
I caught my biggest bonefish on a flat that was like 5 miles off the highway that I found on google earth and almost demolished my rental car trying to get to.
awesome, thanks for this advice! i use google maps to chase blue lines here, but it hand't occurred to me to use google earth to scope out saltwater flats. the saltwater is new for me, but in my last few outings i've learned the hard way that: 90 percent of the fish are in 10 percent of the water. but using this advice and resources like hamilton's book might help to at least narrow my focus. thanks again!
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:33 am to Bunsbert Montcroff
The best thing about Rob's book is it will tell you exactly which flats are guaranteed to have other people on them.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 11:48 am to HotKoolaid
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which flats are guaranteed to have other people on them.
As long as you get off Providenciales in Turks & Caicos then one can have some huge areas of flats all to themselves.
Bunsbert - If you have a burner email I may have some information I can forward you from a few years ago when I went down there. Guides are very expensive, but Vallely was a blast to fish with (Bonefish Unlimited)
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 11:49 am
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:25 pm to HotKoolaid
Tongue in cheek aside, that’s accurate. He’s very good about identifying popular flats accordingly. You have have to take into account that a lot of people that do the DIY thing want to get out of their truck, walk 20 yards, and fish. That’s just not a recipe for success when it comes to this stuff.
The pressure isn’t nearly as bad as some suggest on the internet because of that reason alone. If you’re willing to paddle or walk further than others, you will find undisturbed water. Sometimes that means walking several miles through shin deep slop though ha.
The pressure isn’t nearly as bad as some suggest on the internet because of that reason alone. If you’re willing to paddle or walk further than others, you will find undisturbed water. Sometimes that means walking several miles through shin deep slop though ha.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:28 pm to Saskwatch
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As long as you get off Providenciales in Turks & Caicos then one can have some huge areas of flats all to themselves.
Bunsbert - If you have a burner email I may have some information I can forward you from a few years ago when I went down there. Guides are very expensive, but Vallely was a blast to fish with (Bonefish Unlimited)
thanks!
yeah, most of provo looks like a natural park or marine preserve, which is closed to fishing. we are staying right on sapodilla bay, which is open to fishing. hoping to get out there, and into taylor bay during the morning hours. have also heard good things about turtle lake on provo.
i also know that sandy bay, where the ferry docks at north caicos is supposed to be a good bonefishing location, and then bottle creek on north caicos. i'll be there for a whole week, so i have some time to explore. thanks again!
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 10/25/18 at 8:58 pm to bluemoons
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If you’re willing to paddle or walk further than others, you will find undisturbed water. Sometimes that means walking several miles through shin deep slop though ha.
Amen. Long ago I discovered that most fishermen aren't willing to go as far as I'll go. I'll walk miles into the bush to get to a remote section of stream and not see a soul all day long. Come back to the car and there's 5 guys stacked up near the parking area. The hiking is half the fun for me
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:20 pm to AubieALUMdvm
Broke my favorite rod today. My Winston Vapor is no more. Caught a lot of fish on that rod.:(
Posted on 10/28/18 at 7:37 pm to Lonnie Utah
Bummer man - how much is it to get it fixed/piece replace? I believe Winston also ha a pretty good policy on that stuff
Posted on 10/28/18 at 9:10 pm to AubieALUMdvm
I broke a Winston a few years ago. $50 to get it replaced under warranty.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 6:19 am to ccard257
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I broke a Winston a few years ago. $50 to get it replaced under warranty.
It's up to $75 now. But it really isn't the money, it's the memories.
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