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re: ‘Swollen lug nuts’ 2017 F-150

Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:14 am to
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28622 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:14 am to
If Ford will try and save money on an $8 part, what else with they go cheap on?

That's incredible.

Think about all the cars and truck Ford has sitting in fields waiting on microchips. They're going to try and sell those as new though they've been sitting up for months.

Ford stock is trading at $16.4. It will be at $5 in the next two years.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19256 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:16 pm to
pry the chrome cover off or hammer a socket on
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28042 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

his Ford tech goes back decades. I had a 88 Ranger in HS and rounded a lug nut due to this chichy bs.


That's absurd, and it's why I avoid certain car companies. Any good company can put out a product or feature that doesn't work that well. The ones who give a shite about quality work hard to fix the problem in future models, the ones who don't figure as long as they're still selling trucks why not? And they'll continue to sell them, but not to me.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19522 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 12:42 pm to
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If Ford will try and save money on an $8 part, what else with they go cheap on?


What about Dodge, Toyota, Honda and GM? Almost every big OEM has used two-piece lug nuts, pretending this is a Ford-only issue is just a demonstration of ignorance.

The vast majority of the failures and problems have more to do with the fool behind the impact gun that the lug nuts themselves. This even applies to the all-steel flanged lug nuts that need 100 ft-lbs vs 140 - 150 ft-lbs, not the OEM's fault people are too lazy to look up the torque spec or think they know better.
This post was edited on 3/18/22 at 12:59 pm
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2854 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 2:19 pm to
My 2000 Jeep TJ Wrangler had the same type of design. Swapped them out. had no idea our 2013 F-150 had same until Discount Tire mentioned it. Swapped them out.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72023 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 2:27 pm to
I think Ford could build in a self destruct mechanism and you'd be in here explaining how great it is
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15818 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Ford stock is trading at $16.4. It will be at $5 in the next two years.





quoting this for a reminder in 2 years.
Posted by JoePepitone
Waffle House #1494
Member since Feb 2014
12023 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 3:18 pm to
I had to replace all 24 on my 2014 F-150 a couple of years ago. The only problem I had prior to that issue was an ignition pack failed on 1 cylinder.

Now one of the blend door actuators has failed. They evidently started with that part and built the entire truck around it. A $60 part takes around 7 hours to replace it. Console and dash have to come out to access it. Estimate is $1,000.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28622 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 3:51 pm to
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quoting this for a reminder in 2 years


Ok. The economy will be in a recession within 2 years. The Fed has blown it.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19522 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

I think Ford could build in a self destruct mechanism and you'd be in here explaining how great it is


I give credit where it is due and blame where it is as well. You can just as easily find out how many other makes use the same type of lug nuts with the exact same complaints.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102470 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Swollen lug nuts


Tell your wife to stop being a tease to your truck
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 9:27 pm to
I had that issue on my personal F150's and the ones I bought for my business.
Nothing you can do but change them out to aftermarket ones.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10145 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 12:15 am to
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Ford sucks. I have one. I bought one of the '04-'11 5.7L 3-valve V8 F-150s

You obviously know a lot about Fords. What other areas do you call yourself an expert in?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
9235 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 11:32 am to
It's the nature of that design. Several manufacturers use that style now. I had to swap on a factory wheel back onto my 2012 Camaro last year while I dropped my other wheel and tire off for service. I've been running aftermarket wheels since 2015 and the factory ones and their lug nuts have been sitting up in my shop since then.

When I went to swap on the factory wheel, I had no problem putting them on. However after a few days of heat cycling and being exposed to the elements 3 of the 5 lugs on the wheel were swollen up and it took me trip to Lowe's to buy a cheap metric impact socket I didn't have in the next size to get them off. Even after that, I had to drive each lug nut out with a punch after putting the socket in a vise.

It's POS design and whatever engineer thought it up should be thrown from a plane.
This post was edited on 3/19/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72023 posts
Posted on 3/19/22 at 9:40 pm to
I'm not understanding what the purpose of that sleeve is??
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8195 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 9:27 pm to
Toyota does this same shite, my wife's 2016 Sienna has the same issue and I decided to preemptively get the Japan spec lug nuts with no liner/cover last time I rotated the rims. Tossed the OEM ones in the trash.

If you keep the vehicle long enough it will get you sooner or later. In Northern climates with salt roads, it will be sooner.

Total shite cost savings design.



Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8195 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 9:29 pm to
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I'm not understanding what the purpose of that sleeve is??




To save a few pennies per unit and make a bare steel lugnut look like a solid chrome plated one.

Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
3654 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:11 pm to
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I bought one of the '04-'11 5.7L 3-valve V8 F-150s. $1,000 to change spark plugs because they break off and you have to drill them out.


Do you remember how many miles you had on the odometer before you decided to change the factory crappy 2-piece plugs? Were you changing them as part of regular preventative maintenance or were you getting misfires? Was that the 4.6L or 5.4L?
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