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re: State Record Typical?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:52 pm to ElDawgHawg
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:52 pm to ElDawgHawg
So many people here are saying it should have an asterisk beside it in the book, but how can you say that for a free range deer? Just because it was on a huge managed chunk of land? Where do you draw the line on what should have an asterisks or not? If it’s born and lived entirely free range and legally taken it should be the record.
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:38 am to baldona
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basically fence raise deer here in ‘free range’ conditions.
I'd love to hear your as*backwards explanation of this.
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I don’t know the details, but let’s admit they had every resource, opportunity, motivation, etc
How can you admit and ask others to admit something you admittedly don't know any details about?
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HB and co are not helping themselves by having a Jordan fly in and shoot it with a rifle
Just saying... Again... Tyler and Realtree are not some rich turd from New York that flew in got put up in a stand and killed a deer. They put the time in at their Lease and killed the deer they hoped to. Also, btw, Tyler killed a 155-160 8 pt out there like 3 weeks ago. With a bow. This is all so dumb. Quit trying to qualify this deal.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 7:35 am to White Bear
its 2 brothers. both of them worked in oil and gas and then they purchased the farm
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 7:36 am
Posted on 12/12/24 at 7:39 am to LSUFAN227
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Just saying... Again... Tyler and Realtree are not some rich turd from New York that flew in got put up in a stand and killed a deer.
There’s no way that you can honestly say this and mean it? For one, the rich dude from NY ain’t putting his own stand up, come on now.
Are you suggesting they didn’t put a ton of resources into this deer to help?
If I’m the manager of a place like HB and want to ‘grow the biggest buck possible and state record’ what do I need to do? You need nutrition, great genetics, and allow as many bucks as possible to get old as often as possible. After a couple of years it’s fairly easy to find the genetics that won’t grow and you start to remove those through private paid hunts.
That buck looks earily similar to the buck Jordan shot off their 9000 acre high fence in Georgia, to my eye.
You are right. These are free range deer in every legal sense. Poon drives bucks miles away, without a doubt. Over many obstacles no doubt. That’s why if I’m the manager I try to have as many as possible, it’s a lot easier to get 1/10 bucks than it is 1/1 or 1/3. With 20,000 acres that’s a much easier task.
When you question a free range hunt you consider the variables that are under control like I said: genetics, nutrition, age, etc. This deer had most of the variables heavily influenced to some degree. It’s a beautiful buck without a doubt.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 7:58 am to baldona
I honestly think that most of the angst or "jealously" is simply because a well known, out of state hunting "celeb" will likely own the state record.
I think if a local wealthy doctor had killed the deer in the same circumstances, there would be less "it shouldn't count" posts.
I think if a local wealthy doctor had killed the deer in the same circumstances, there would be less "it shouldn't count" posts.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:00 am to baldona
after reading the comments in this thread, some of y'all must really hate the idea of governor's tags out west.
That's an amazing deer. Congrats to all of those involved with HB.
That's an amazing deer. Congrats to all of those involved with HB.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:18 am to LoneStarTiger
I think the big thing is people just can’t relate to the situation because it’s so different than our hunting careers. If it was a public land hunter or someone sitting over a corn feeder on a timber company lease, we get that.
But it’s probably healthy and realistic to admit that if we were in the same boat as Tyler, we would be hunting similar to him. At least Tyler is hunting big bucks and isn’t a Hunter Biden crack head. Lots of temptations for a wealthy young man.
But it’s probably healthy and realistic to admit that if we were in the same boat as Tyler, we would be hunting similar to him. At least Tyler is hunting big bucks and isn’t a Hunter Biden crack head. Lots of temptations for a wealthy young man.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:23 am to baldona
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That buck looks earily similar to the buck Jordan shot off their 1200 acre no/low fence in Georgia, to my eye.
FIFY.
If you want to couple it with Foxworthy's place, it's still only 4000ac total. Realtree also owns another 1150ac in different part of county, also no/low fence
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:04 am to 257WBY
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But it’s probably healthy and realistic to admit that if we were in the same boat as Tyler, we would be hunting similar to him.
I won't speak for everyone but I absolutely would.
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I think the big thing is people just can’t relate to the situation because it’s so different than our hunting careers.
I think the big thing is, in typical internet fashion, everything gets turned into a dick measuring contest.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 9:48 am to geauxbrown
Just another reason why Mossy Oak is better. Don’t hear this controversy from the Haas boys!
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:51 am to LoneStarTiger
quote:Hunting has been turned into the dick measuring contest, for profit, and that’s the saddest part IMO.
I think the big thing is, in typical internet fashion, everything gets turned into a dick measuring contest.
Basically competitive bass fishing without all the colorful patches and shite.
I still like backstrap though.
Follow up: if this deer is “Stomper Jr.”, where’s by god ol “Stomper Sr.” at?
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:02 am to White Bear
Absolutely. But that contest makes brands like Realtree and HB money. Ironic!
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 11:03 am
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:14 am to bbvdd
It's not jealousy. I've been invited to hunt high fence places in texas with the chance to shoot a 175+ deer. It doesn't interest me. If I put it on the wall I might as well put an asterisk next to it knowing the only reason I shot it was due to $$$$.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:38 pm to LSUFAN227
I'm not nor did i say anything that you commented here. Not sure where you got most of it from. BUT that was my opinion and maybe I'm exposed to a little more information than others, but I do know for sure these terms I used for possible record categories and the analogy I gave didn't come from me. It has been bounced around in certain circles for a couple of years and I assume will become more frequently used when talking about geography associated with free range herds. I believe pre geo-mapping areas that if and when a record comes from X location it is auto sent to the corresponding record book category. I'm not saying you have to think its dumb or not or think I'm an idiot for repeating it or believing its a possibility. I'm just saying its being discussed n my opinion of it was there to read. Like it...fine, not like ....fine
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:01 pm to freshtigerbait
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its 2 brothers. both of them worked in oil and gas and then they purchased the farm
Exactly. Michael and Ron Johnson are the owners. It's not a RealTree leased property. They book hunts for waterfowl, deer, dove, alligator, and hog. Tyler/Realtree booked a hunt and I'm sure paid a big price. Honeybrake has a waitlist for booking deer hunts.
Hell. A booked Trophy elk hunt in the Rockies goes for $10k or higher. HoneyHole is no different of an operation.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:15 pm to boudinman
Assuming this hunt was filmed right? It will be made to watch at some point?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:20 pm to boudinman
i will say this until the day i die, trophy deer hunting has become a rich mans sport.
A trip to a Missouri outfitter is cheaper than that
A trip to a Missouri outfitter is cheaper than that
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:38 pm to lsuson
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hunt high fence places in texas
Honey Brake isn't high fenced so it isn't the same thing
I guess all those big deer up and down the Miss River that are killed don't count either because they have a river on one side and a levee on the other
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:33 pm to baldona
Believe its airing tonight at 6:30 on Realtree 365
Posted on 12/12/24 at 4:50 pm to lsuson
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It's not jealousy. I've been invited to hunt high fence places in texas with the chance to shoot a 175+ deer.
What does that have to do with this low fence deer
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