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re: Spinoff of the Troy Landry Thread- When is trespassing ok?

Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:09 pm to
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You realize what you quoted shows floridas laws are different than ours correct, and that navigable waterway is public unless in very rare casese

Meh. This thread is about canals. I think neither of us know the full extent of Florida law, but it's not what you guys have been pretending all along.

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Texasis simple like ours, just on the opposite end of ours

I know zero about it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:10 pm to
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If e-fighting was real, I would chose to e-fight you

Why?

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Between this, and your "its a 6 point posts" I want to check the knucles
You're even dumber than I originally thought.
Posted by Bigwhite5154
louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
78 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:11 pm to
While I don't fully understand the laws on how water can be private if you can access it from public waterways, I think that if someone digs a canal off of a river to access their property or to have a launch that is easier for them to access the river or do whatever they do on their property, it is basically like a driveway for water and I don't see how someone else should have the right to anchor a boat in it and fish whether it be for liability purposes or the fact that they spent the money to build the canal. To me its like parking in someones driveway and saying you can use it because its off of a public road. So the way I look at it is its the same if you put a gate across your driveway because you don't want people using it.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Melvin Spellvin
proud dad of 2 A&M honor grads
Member since Jul 2015
1676 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:12 pm to
about the only thing we might be able to agree on is the laws of Louisiana concerning waterways and property ownership (compared to all other states) are screwed up bigtime, so, pull together politically and get the laws changed, good luck with that...
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:12 pm to
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Wtf are you talking about?

Your post. Here it is again

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Now we are getting ridiculous. If it's a natural waterbody that can be legally accessed, how the shite is it not public?



You are concluding it can be legally accessed before determining if it public or private.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111461 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:13 pm to
Do you really think I'm dumb? That hurts my feelings
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:14 pm to
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the only thing we might be able to agree on is the laws of Louisiana concerning waterways and property ownership (compared to all other states) are screwed up bigtime
Nope

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so, pull together politically and get the laws changed
Do you realize what would happen?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:16 pm to
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Do you really think I'm dumb?
You author dumb posts. We all do it at one time or another. It's not personal. If my best friend posted that, I'd call him dumb too. Lord knows I call him dumb all the time in other contexts
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111461 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:16 pm to
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about the only thing we might be able to agree on is the laws of Louisiana concerning waterways and property ownership (compared to all other states) are screwed up bigtime, so, pull together politically and get the laws changed, good luck with that...
unfortunately, it seems most here are like the LA laws
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111461 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:17 pm to
And I bet your best friend has knuckle checked you before for calling him dumb eh?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:18 pm to
Really can't wait for the Crooks opinion from the third circus. Oral argument was done recently. Shouldn't be too long for an opinion. The trial court appeared to give the landowner's their cake and allow them to eat it too. All the while making it unclear to many who currently owns the shite
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:20 pm to
I'm not concluding anything. I'm merely restating what the article said in the form of a question. I'm assuming by "legal access", they mean that it has some sort of boat launch off a public road. If that is the case, how is it not public? Any other means of access (crossing private land, using private launch, launching from public roadside) would not necessarily constitute "legal access".

Otherwise, what is being considered "legal access"? Public frontage alone wouldn't make it public, but you typically don't see a public launch on a private waterbody.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4971 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:22 pm to
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trespassing is not allowed when hunting
Truth.

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but is perfectly fine when fishing
More truth, in fact I don't even consider it trespassing if you are floating in a boat in tidal water.

Bank fishermen are trespassing if they are on the wrong private property.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111461 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:25 pm to
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Really can't wait for the Crooks opinion from the third circus. Oral argument was done recently. Shouldn't be too long for an opinion. The trial court appeared to give the landowner's their cake and allow them to eat it too. All the while making it unclear to many who currently owns the shite


Maybe I am dumb because I have no clue what you are talking about
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:26 pm to
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And I bet your best friend has knuckle checked you before for calling him dumb eh?


He laughs.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Maybe I am dumb because I have no clue what you are talking about

Could be wrong, but I would think he's talking about the Catahoula Lake matter.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:31 pm to
The decision about Catahoula Lake. The NOLA site is terrible, but here is an article. Ignore the headline and opinion. Focus on the facts.

More stable site
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 2:33 pm
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:40 pm to
So, the argument is that the area flooded to create the lake was never lawfully acquired by the state?

Seems cut and dry to me. State should quit flooding it.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 2:42 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87396 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:44 pm to
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So, the argument is that the area flooded to create the lake was never lawfully acquired by the state?

Seems cut and dry to me. State should quit flooding it.


The river vs lake debate. The lines are different based upon the outcome. The judge said,
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the state had unlawfully expropriated the river banks, owing the landowners $38 million in damages as well as $4.5 million in unpaid oil and gas royalties, after oil drilling has been taking place in the area throughout the years.
So, if it is determined to be expropriated, and the owners were compensated, then it's now state land.
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 2:46 pm to
Interesting when someone brings facts to the table. Well done, Sir.
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