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Snake ID - Close Call

Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:24 am
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:24 am
Is this a Pygmy? Never seen one in the wild before.

Stepped right over this guy on a hike with my son, who tells me he zipped between my legs and made a sound like a loud grasshopper.


Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:45 am to
Yup
Posted by keyboard_warrior9
BR
Member since Aug 2018
828 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:59 am to
Wheres that at? a few years ago i almost stepped on one in WBR
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8815 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:10 am to
Man, am I lucky.

This is near the Buffalo River in Arkansas, 2.5 miles & 1200ft of elevation change from the trail head - no cell service.

That green stone in the bottom of the image is the edge of a rather dry stream bed running to the river, moss covered with early hickory leaves littering it.

The snake was in leaves and just ran when I stepped over him, but went right within my stride. I watched him move to the leaves at the top of the picture and he was damn near invisible.

I owe God a few Thank You prayers - I guess he decided I've had enough pain for a while (house recently destroyed by a giant oak).
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:10 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:44 am to
Haven't seen one in 30 years and the first thing I said when I saw the pick was, "Pigmy rattler".
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:47 am to
western pigmy
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30549 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:05 pm to
saw one 2 springs ago, at a clearing where a development was going up on Hoo Shoo Too. First one I had seen since curley hallman era....
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5103 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:13 pm to
Those Ozark hills are full of Copperheads too. My uncle used to own a campground on the Buffalo and one year we killed 11 or 12 in a week.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21694 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:47 pm to
Nice find. I'd love to see one. We supposedly have them in N. AL, but they're very sparse up here, and I've yet to find one.
Posted by cypressbrake3
Member since Oct 2014
3681 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 2:06 pm to
I've seen them in SW Mississippi. They seem to have a more pugnacious attitude than big boy timber rattlesnakes do. Just my observation and could be wrong.
Posted by WhuckFistle
Member since Jul 2015
2995 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 2:14 pm to
Down at my grandmas house back in the day. Me and my uncle were squirrel hunting. We were walking back on the main road on our lease and I saw something that looked like a pile of dog shite. Just as I was putting my foot down right beside it, I yelled snaked and my uncle shite his pants. I jumped over it and shot it all in one movement. Got up to it and it was a pigmy rattler. Thing was tiny but I was
scared shitless since I was about 10yrs old at the time.

The old timers down there called it a ground rattler. Which confused me because all snakes are mostly on the ground to begin with.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 2:15 pm
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Stepped right over this guy on a hike with my son, who tells me he zipped between my legs and made a sound like a loud grasshopper.


I was running a rails to trails on Saturday morning and damn near stepped on an adult copperhead that was entering the trail. I only saw him when I was about 6-7 feet away (2 strides). I managed to step around and over him.

Talk about a pucker moment.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 2:20 pm
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15804 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Is this a Pygmy?


Nope...its a GDKC!!!!
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7119 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:37 pm to
They make great pets - kept for for around a year.

Had a close call in Lacombe when I was around 13 or 14. I was on my bicycle on a gravel road and saw one crossing the road. At first glance I thought it was a hognose. I hopped off my bike, ran over, and had my hand hovering over him about to make the grab, and it stopped. The second it stopped, I saw the orange stripe and recognized it as a pygmy rattler. I was literally a second away from grabbing it while it was moving.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42567 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:34 pm to
Y'all got water moccasins?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:02 am to
quote:

At first glance I thought it was a hognose.
Yup
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16562 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:08 am to
quote:

hey seem to have a more pugnacious attitude than big boy timber rattlesnakes do


Napolean Complex
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15075 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Is this a Pygmy? Never seen one in the wild before.


Are they deadly dangerous?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:13 am to
quote:

The pigmy rattlesnake produces a venom that is strongly hemorrhagic and tissue damaging, but it doesn't have any neurotoxins in its composition. The hemotoxic venom causes the breakdown of blood cells and causes bruising and internal bleeding.

Because of their smaller size, they are unable to produce much venom and have small fangs. So it's unlikely that it can deliver a fatal bite to a human adult, but in some rare cases, they have been fatal.

?Its bite can however, be very painful giving the victim quite an unpleasant time for a few days. However if the incident involves children may result in hospitalization, and there have been also reports of necrosis and loss of digits occurring.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15075 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

?Its bite can however, be very painful giving the victim quite an unpleasant time for a few days. However if the incident involves children may result in hospitalization, and there have been also reports of necrosis and loss of digits occurring.

That's bad enough. I thought it would be more on the order of a cicada wasp. I ain't sceered of them though.
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