- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
S&W finally introduces a direct competitor to the Hellcat and 365
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:24 am
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:24 am
Multiple reviews dropped today for the Shield M&P Shield Plus, a subcompact double stack 9mm that holds 10+1 or 13+1 (w/extension mag).
It's basically S&W's first direct competitor to the Sig P365 and the Hellcat. It's supposed to only be about 1" thick and virtually the same size as the current small Shield 2.0, which only holds 8+1.
They also changed the trigger to a more flat-faced design.
Specs:
Caliber: 9mm Luger
Capacity: 10+1, 13+1
Sights: White Dot Front with White 2-Dot Rear
Action: Striker Fire
Grip and Frame Material: Polymer
Barrel and Slide Material: Stainless Steel with Armornite® Finish
Slide and Frame Finish: Matte Black
Barrel Length: 3.1”
Overall Length: 6.1?
Weight: 17.9 Oz.
Safety: Manual Thumb Safety
MSRP: $553
...
Reviews are all over YT. They say it fits the same holsters as the single stack and also expect it to sell about $100 less than MSRP.
It's basically S&W's first direct competitor to the Sig P365 and the Hellcat. It's supposed to only be about 1" thick and virtually the same size as the current small Shield 2.0, which only holds 8+1.
They also changed the trigger to a more flat-faced design.
Specs:
Caliber: 9mm Luger
Capacity: 10+1, 13+1
Sights: White Dot Front with White 2-Dot Rear
Action: Striker Fire
Grip and Frame Material: Polymer
Barrel and Slide Material: Stainless Steel with Armornite® Finish
Slide and Frame Finish: Matte Black
Barrel Length: 3.1”
Overall Length: 6.1?
Weight: 17.9 Oz.
Safety: Manual Thumb Safety
MSRP: $553
...
Reviews are all over YT. They say it fits the same holsters as the single stack and also expect it to sell about $100 less than MSRP.
8
Posted on 3/16/21 at 3:38 am to Jack Ruby
Ruger also released their Max 9 to compete today as well. This segment is becoming incredibly competitive now.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:07 am to Jack Ruby
Meh, it has its purpose, but for a carry gun I'd rather the 2.0 with 8+1. I don't want the extra weight of 5 more rounds to carry. If I can't hit you with 9 rounds, I can at least find cover to get to my other mag.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:59 am to Jack Ruby
Just got an email this morning from Smoky Mountain Guns & Ammo (Great place to purchase firearms online if you haven't heard of them). They have both models in stock right now - w/ or w/o thumb safety - for $599. So they're asking over MSRP but I'm sure that's because it's a new, hot item and also because of the gun-buying-frenzy climate we're currently in.
https://www.smga.com/smith-and-wesson/mp9-shield-plus-nts-9mm-14051
https://www.smga.com/smith-and-wesson/mp9-shield-plus-thumb-safety-9mm-14050
EDIT TO ADD: Although I love the way a Shield fits in my hands and shoots, if I were to be in the market for a 13+1 carry gun, I'd go with the Hellcat OSP and Springfield's new Hex Wasp Red Dot.
https://www.smga.com/smith-and-wesson/mp9-shield-plus-nts-9mm-14051
https://www.smga.com/smith-and-wesson/mp9-shield-plus-thumb-safety-9mm-14050
EDIT TO ADD: Although I love the way a Shield fits in my hands and shoots, if I were to be in the market for a 13+1 carry gun, I'd go with the Hellcat OSP and Springfield's new Hex Wasp Red Dot.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 8:03 am
Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:20 am to Jack Ruby
I'm surprised it took S&W this long. This should be a real hit considering how well the original shield has done. Crazy to think not that long ago the Sig 365 broke the mold with their "patented" double stack mags in a single stack gun. Now every big manufacturer is cranking out these guns.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 8:27 am to shawnlsu
quote:
shawnlsu
quote:
for a carry gun I'd rather the 2.0 with 8+1
quote:
If I can't hit you with 9 rounds
quote:
other mag
This guy actually gets it.
quote:
don't want the extra weight of 5 rounds to carry.
Well, maybe he kinda gets it......
Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:18 am to shawnlsu
quote:
I don't want the extra weight of 5 more rounds to carry.
quote:
I can at least find cover to get to my other mag.
So you are whining about the weight of 5 rounds yet talk about carrying a whole extra magazine. That's just stupid.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:52 am to Jack Ruby
Smith has slowly introduced all of the improvements people were making on their own to the M&P line by dropping in Apex parts. Smart on their part, but they damn near owe them royalties at this point.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 2:31 pm to Clames
quote:
So you are whining about the weight of 5 rounds yet talk about carrying a whole extra magazine. That's just stupid.
Where did my post say that I carried an extra mag.
I have extra mags all over the place, but I rarely carry a 2nd on me.
5 more rounds in the gun weighs more than just those 5 rounds. You have to add materials to the gun and mags to house those extra rounds. I want my carry gun as light and thin as possible.
TETO.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 3/16/21 at 4:57 pm to shawnlsu
Wish it had a picatinny rail for a light
Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:04 pm to Jack Ruby
Surprised it doesn't have an optic cut.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 7:15 pm to EFHogman
quote:
Wish it had a picatinny rail for a light
The point of the slim single stacks is to keep the overall width down. I doubt too many people buying them want a big light up front. Most people put those on larger double stacks.
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:03 pm to shawnlsu
quote:
You have to add materials to the gun and mags to house those extra rounds. I want my carry gun as light and thin as possible.
M&P Shield 9mm Gen 1: 19 ounces
M&P Shield Plus 9mm: 17.9 ounces
Posted on 3/17/21 at 5:20 am to jaytothen
quote:
M&P Shield 9mm Gen 1: 19 ounces
M&P Shield Plus 9mm: 17.9 ounces
That's quite surprising indeed. Also, the Shield 2.0 comes in at 18.3oz from what I just looked up...
At .99" for the 2.0 vs 1.1" for the Plus, I'd imagine they had to take some poly out of the mold, especially in the grip area, in order to account for a wider magazine, so that might explain the less weight for a higher capacity gun.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 7:20 am to UcobiaA
quote:
Surprised it doesn't have an optic cut.
It's confirmed they will have a model with that option.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:22 am to cdaniel76
quote:
At .99" for the 2.0 vs 1.1" for the Plus
That's not that impressive. All these claims were that it was "just as thin" had me ready for an upgrade, but 10% isn't insignificant. I just checked my M&P compact and it's 1.15 if you ignore the palm swells. I like the trigger but the rest is starting to look like marketing.
Posted on 3/17/21 at 1:21 pm to LSUChamps03
You sumbitches! I swear! Always makin me spend money! 
I just preordered a Performance Center model with Fib Optic front & rear's at Brownells...
USE CODE: MZB
Now, the important question... Anyone interested in a less-than-year-old Shield 2.0 Perf Center model that I posted about HERE?
I'm most interest in seeing how that flat-face trigger is going to be. I'm a flat-face trigger fan and looking forward to it.
I just preordered a Performance Center model with Fib Optic front & rear's at Brownells...
USE CODE: MZB
Now, the important question... Anyone interested in a less-than-year-old Shield 2.0 Perf Center model that I posted about HERE?
I'm most interest in seeing how that flat-face trigger is going to be. I'm a flat-face trigger fan and looking forward to it.
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/17/21 at 1:43 pm to shawnlsu
quote:
Meh, it has its purpose, but for a carry gun I'd rather the 2.0 with 8+1.
My wife carries the 2.0 and I've found it to be wildly inaccurate so the extra rds maybe needed. Also, It has misfired a couple times in practice and that is problematic. Size and feel of the gun is great, but I end up getting the Sig..
Posted on 3/17/21 at 1:45 pm to DarkDrifter
quote:
My wife carries the 2.0 and I've found it to be wildly inaccurate so the extra rds maybe needed. Also, It has misfired a couple times in practice and that is problematic.
It’s not the arrow, son. It’s the Indian.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News