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Safety on a concealed carry pistol
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:36 pm
So I'm thinking of getting a concealed carry pistol. I definitely do not want a pistol with no safety that I am going to carry IWB. But I am kind of up in the air as to what kind of safety to get. Passive - like the Springfield xd-m elite with both a trigger safety and a grip safety. Or active - like a Sig 365X with a manual safety.
To me, the con of a manual safety is, if none of my other pistols have one, taking the safey off won't be automatic, and I might lose a precious second or two at the most crucial time.
The con of the passive safety is, in the heat of the moment with the adrenaline gushing, I might forget to keep my finger off the trigger when drawing and will be ripe for an accident.
Thoughts?
To me, the con of a manual safety is, if none of my other pistols have one, taking the safey off won't be automatic, and I might lose a precious second or two at the most crucial time.
The con of the passive safety is, in the heat of the moment with the adrenaline gushing, I might forget to keep my finger off the trigger when drawing and will be ripe for an accident.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:38 pm to Ajo Devil
Revolver
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:49 pm to Ajo Devil
My CC does not have a safety, but I still haven't got the courage up to carry it with one in the chamber. My holster is a hard holster and covers the trigger and trigger guard, but I still haven't gotten the courage up to do it.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:59 pm to Homey the Clown
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My CC does not have a safety, but I still haven't got the courage up to carry it with one in the chamber. My holster is a hard holster and covers the trigger and trigger guard, but I still haven't gotten the courage up to do it.
my Shield 9MM nor my Shield .45 have a safety. They're always loaded and ready to go. Haven't had any trouble and i've ridden 4 wheelers, horses, tractors, SxS, etc. Only goes boom when I pull the trigger.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:17 pm to Ajo Devil
Look at the Springfield Armory Hellcat with external safety.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:17 pm to Homey the Clown
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My CC does not have a safety, but I still haven't got the courage up to carry it with one in the chamber. My holster is a hard holster and covers the trigger and trigger guard, but I still haven't gotten the courage up to do it.
What lol. Why even carry if you don’t keep it loaded. Good luck racking it when you need to respond in seconds.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:32 pm to Fox McCloud
OP if you have to fumble with a safety and are not trained you're going to frick up under pressure and the gun won't fire.
If you can't carry without a safety then i suggest you don't.
Until you are comfortable enough and shoot enough then and only then would I carry and it would be a pistol without a safety.
Revolvers have transfer bars to keep from going off if it so that might be an option if you are too nervous with the other.
If you can't carry without a safety then i suggest you don't.
Until you are comfortable enough and shoot enough then and only then would I carry and it would be a pistol without a safety.
Revolvers have transfer bars to keep from going off if it so that might be an option if you are too nervous with the other.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:57 pm to Ajo Devil
Look up a youtube video of how a Glock trigger safety works
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:25 pm to Atlas_Shrugged
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physically impossible for a Glock to fire without squeezing the trigger
But it is not physically impossible for something else to accidentally pull the trigger.
DA/SA is the answer OP seeks.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:36 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yeah it’s pretty close to impossible. Again look up a Glock trigger safety. You’ve clearly never operated a Glock.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:55 pm to Ajo Devil
Im a big fan of Da/sa hammer fired guns with a decocker only. Either way you should train with what you end up buying enough to feel completely confident in yourself and the firearm you choose. It might be a good idea to go watch a bunch of youtube videos on different pistols and get a better idea of what you want.
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:33 pm to kaleidoscoping
Not going to address the manual safety issue. You have to decide that yourself.
I made mine.
I will address the grip safety specifically on the S&W Shield ez 9mm
My SIL has one. She, my niece and nephew met us at my farm to shoot some.
There were probably 4-5 times that she had to adjust her grip because she wasn’t disengaging the grip safety on the gun.
I told her she needed to get rid of it.
I made mine.
I will address the grip safety specifically on the S&W Shield ez 9mm
My SIL has one. She, my niece and nephew met us at my farm to shoot some.
There were probably 4-5 times that she had to adjust her grip because she wasn’t disengaging the grip safety on the gun.
I told her she needed to get rid of it.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:38 pm to bbvdd
I used to not have one in the chamber. Lota of videos why this is not a good idea for true self defense
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:18 pm to thejudge
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OP if you have to fumble with a safety and are not trained you're going to frick up under pressure and the gun won't fire
Exactly Right. That is outlined in the Long running Police Academy Textbook
" Street Survival : Tactics For Armed Encounters "
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:31 pm to jimjackandjose
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I used to not have one in the chamber. Lota of videos why this is not a good idea for true self defense
TBH when I got uncomfortable carrying with one in the chamber, I stopped carrying altogether. That's how useless it is, IMO, especially if you've spent years carrying with a round chambered.
FWIW I stopped (temporarily) because I have toddlers jumping in my lap all the time and I just couldn't get past it - I know it's irrational but I don't really care - I knowingly choose one tiny risk over the other. I still do carry, just not when I'm likely to be wrestling or carrying around an infant/toddler.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:02 pm to Ajo Devil
If the modern combat sidearm was meant to not have a safety, John Browning would have designed it that way.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:10 pm to artompkins
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combat sidearm
A concealed carry gun is not a combat firearm. It is a personal defense firearm. You aren't selecting a weapon to go tunnel clearing in Nam. Odds are extremely low you'll ever use it but very high that you will handle it frequently while loaded.
I'm on a crusade to change the thinking of all you "my finger is my safety" types. A safety on a handgun is absolutely not a bad thing. If you don't like it, get a DA or a DA/SA gun where the first trigger pull is very long and heavy.
There's going to be exponentially more opportunity to ND your weapon than there will be for it to save your life. A safety can help prevent that.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:15 pm to Ajo Devil
Maybe have a manual safety AND carry your magazine in a separate pocket and ask the bad guys to give you 10 seconds.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:24 pm to Homey the Clown
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My CC does not have a safety, but I still haven't got the courage up to carry it with one in the chamber. My holster is a hard holster and covers the trigger and trigger guard, but I still haven't gotten the courage up to do it.
Homey, Find a weekend when you're going to be home all weekend. W/ the chamber empty but the action cocked, put your gun in your cc holster and carry it that way all weekend. What you'll find out is the action is safe and will not discharge unless you pull the trigger. If you can't become comfortable carrying concealed a gun that doesn't have an external safety lever, you need to get rid of your current gun and get one w/ an external safety lever. Watch a few minutes of this video to get an idea of how dangerous it could be to carry a concealed gun w/ an empty chamber
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:33 pm to Homey the Clown
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My CC does not have a safety, but I still haven't got the courage up to carry it with one in the chamber. My holster is a hard holster and covers the trigger and trigger guard, but I still haven't gotten the courage up to do it.
I ask anyone who does this. If you saw a car coming to hit you at high speed, would you rather have your seatbelt already on or would you rather have to put it on right before the collision. Same shite. You don't want to have to think about loading the gun. Stop worrying about it and keep one in the chamber.
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