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re: Rally shooter was supposedly using an old DPMS w/red dot (no magnifier)
Posted on 7/23/24 at 9:16 am to TheBoo
Posted on 7/23/24 at 9:16 am to TheBoo
I watched the Chris Williamson podcast with Tim Kennedy (ex tier 1 with SS experience) and Kennedy basically said that while he doesn't think it was an inside job, he thinks that there is no doubt the SS management knew the staff in both numbers and individual capability that Trump had and no one worth a shite would have felt comfortable they were competent.
He basically said that any good SS or tier 1 type of person setting up security would not have allowed multiple different aspects of what happen go on.
So basically the staff that was sent was incompetent and you can take it from there, but that nothing was likely done intentionally beyond sending incompetent DEI hired staff.
He made a great point that you don't protect a VIP from day one being hired to the SS, that most of those people on the ground have been there for 3-5 years. So this is what we are getting after 3-5 years of DEI hired staff in the SS.
He basically said that any good SS or tier 1 type of person setting up security would not have allowed multiple different aspects of what happen go on.
So basically the staff that was sent was incompetent and you can take it from there, but that nothing was likely done intentionally beyond sending incompetent DEI hired staff.
He made a great point that you don't protect a VIP from day one being hired to the SS, that most of those people on the ground have been there for 3-5 years. So this is what we are getting after 3-5 years of DEI hired staff in the SS.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 9:19 am
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Posted on 7/23/24 at 9:25 am to TheBoo
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That was my first thought when I saw it. Ricochet. The idea of a simultaneous double shot isn't impossible, but if it was a split second off like the guy claimed, the two gun reports would be discernable.
the idea of a simultaneous shot was ludicrous. The white shirt and black pant guy, they saw movement of his clothing from his reaction of moving his arm. The bullet whizzed on the backside of him.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 10:11 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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This is also why it's equally dumb to call this an inside job. Why would the deep state or secret service or whatever other boogie man use the world's worst assassin for a job like this? I'm sure you could find a patsy that has shot a deer before
Easy. As a diversion from the other shooter.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 10:21 am to Chad504boy
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The white shirt and black pant guy, they saw movement of his clothing from his reaction of moving his arm. The bullet whizzed on the backside of him.
That makes more sense. His reaction would be slightly delayed.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 10:38 am to TheBoo
You know what, i just saw footage again of victims being carried down. He was hit on the left side where his shirt and pants nearly meet. You literally can see his clothing going from right to left upon impact. Here's screenshots. Literally the last milli second before impact and during impact. 
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 10:40 am
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:28 pm to baldona
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So basically the staff that was sent was incompetent and you can take it from there, but that nothing was likely done intentionally beyond sending incompetent DEI hired staff.
“Never underestimate the incompetence of the government.” I think a lot of conspiracy theories can be attributed to that.
It does appear to be the most likely scenario, but nobody can say for sure. What’s funny is that one side believes it was a conspiracy to assassinate Trump, the other side believes it was a conspiracy to build support for Trump.
I’m inclined to agree with Kennedy. Conspiracy or not though, the SS obviously needs to tighten up, and this incident will help with that.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 1:39 pm to Chad504boy
You can't make out anything from that garbled, pixelated bullshite.
Posted on 7/23/24 at 1:44 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
People want to act shocked that a shooter got 6 rounds off from 150 yards, like the Secret Service is impenetrable. John Hinkley got off 6 rounds from within 15 feet.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 7/23/24 at 2:13 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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You can't make out anything from that garbled, pixelated bullshite.
i can. Sorry if you feel that way, but that pixelate bs is the bullet striking that individual.
I'll tell you what i did and you can feel free to do what you want.
I took the original video of the bleacher shot where it goes down the entire way.
I used my iphone and put it to slo mo video. I recorded computer screen of the brief moments where it enters the right side black netting, strikes the white shirt individual, then striks the purse, then strikes the guy thats in the middle of aisle all the way to the left. You can literally see the moments of movements the bullets make as it happens frame by frame. Do what you please. That is the info. That IS what happened. That is a pixelated pic of the bullet hitting and going through him. I found the video being carried down the stairs and they are holding towel to his wound.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 7/23/24 at 4:27 pm to Jack Ruby
Why has so much been kept secret? You keep secrets when you’re hiding something. Maybe all they’re hiding are tactics. Fairly obvious that this team was set up to fail, and fail they did.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 1:25 pm to 257WBY
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Why has so much been kept secret? You keep secrets when you’re hiding something. Maybe all they’re hiding are tactics. Fairly obvious that this team was set up to fail, and fail they did.
This is where my mind is at. Any amount of transparency around the investigation would be extremely beneficial. Not every question asked would reveal operation secrets but that's how the deputy dumbshit answered all of the questions. She has no information, and no clear picture of what happened. Either that or she was lying. Even if she were competent, she should have at least had some amount of confident answers for any of the questions. The fact that they haven't shared pictures of the spent casings, FBI pressure washing the roof, and scrubbing the shooter's social media are not anything that the SS should be worried about sharing. It definitely leaves doubt in peoples minds that we're getting any amount of truth.
As for optics and rifle used, a 130-150 yard shot isn't extremely difficult without a magnifier. But given the mission at hand, you'd think someone who knows anything about guns on a suicide mission would throw at least a little something at some magnification. Has the caliber been confirmed at a .223, or is that something they're not sharing as well.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:21 pm to Jon A thon
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I know people spend as much or more on an optic vs. gun, but that seems like a very odd pairing.
Nothing at all odd about that. The US Military has been putting optics that cost several times what the rifles they are mounted on for decades. Aimpoint CompM4, ACOG, etc. all cost way above the unit replacement cost of an M4A1.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 5:30 pm to Jon A thon
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Heard he had an Eotech on an older DPMS
Supposedly it was an Eotech Eflex RDS, not a holographic. The eflex is pretty cheap.
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:04 pm to UcobiaA
The rifle on roof wasn’t even fired. It’s not an important topic.
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