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Questions about 6 month old lab pup.

Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2509 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:13 pm
Headed to vet tomorrow morning for X-rays. 6 months old and not wanting to put weight on one of his hips. Sire and dam both checked out on hips and elbows.

I have noticed something wrong the passed 2.5 months, but vet said he was fine. Took him last week and the vet said he just hurt himself and got a shot plus daily meds. Today it was the worse, and decided to get 2nd opinion tomorrow.

What can I expect besides dysplasia? That might be a heart breaker. It is hard to not let the pup work and play when their heart is burning up to work(train) and play.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24937 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:36 pm to
6 moths old should not be old enough for hip dysplasia rearing it’s issues.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2509 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:00 pm to
What else could it be? I would love for it to be something simple or just a pinched nerve, maybe.

If you google how early you can see it they say a couple months. As of now he just tries to keep his weight off it. Doesn’t like to jump up, or when he goes sideways.

British lab if that makes a difference.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24937 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:04 pm to
He might have torn a tendon or ligament or something or just tweaked something.

While hip dysplasia does start early, issues don’t start showing up until the dog is 1.5-2 years old.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:05 pm to
Bone spurs maybe. I forget exactly what it's called but its not all that uncommon in purebred hounds. I had a treeing walker that had it in front shoulders and unfortunately never got over it.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:16 pm to
Could be pano? Does he always seem to favor the same hip/leg?

If pano, prognosis is good, just something they have to grow out of. Hardest part is cage rest and keeping them comfortable.

It could also be hip dysplasia, and 6 months is not too early for it to appear. Hip dysplasia is only partly genetic, also partly environmental (traction in the whelping box, for example) or instigated by injury during formative growth period.

Hoping for the best!
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2509 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:32 pm to
Yea, it is always the right. Hopefully it can be corrected. I would hate to have to turn him into a pet. That just isn’t what his heart and soul was meant to be. He wanted to work this afternoon, but I couldn’t do it because I’m worried it will hurt him even worse.
Posted by Ppro
natchez
Member since Dec 2013
414 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:34 am to
What food and how much does the pup consume. Some of the very rich foods promote too fast of a growth spurt and dogs joints aren’t able to keep up. Most times it is seen in the front legs but diet is a possibility
Posted by MrWhipple
West of the Mississippi
Member since Jun 2016
675 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:56 am to
If you bought the dog under a contract, then you might check the contract for options. Last dog purchased had 3 yr warranty on genetic issues.
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3692 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:23 am to
quote:

Headed to vet tomorrow morning for X-rays. 6 months old and not wanting to put weight on one of his hips.


Not saying this is the issue, but my lab had similar sounding circumstance with his hip years ago.

The vet pulled and stretched that leg and hip backward and it made a loud popping noise. Almost like it was subluxed or dislocated and popped back into place. Instantly he was back to normal and no issues since.

Good luck
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2099 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:26 am to
Do you let the puppy jump off of high things? I have a 9 month old and the kennel recommended to not let them jump off of higher things like the back of a truck or even a bed.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5503 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:30 am to
quote:

Do you let the puppy jump off of high things? I have a 9 month old and the kennel recommended to not let them jump off of higher things like the back of a truck or even a bed.


This is good advice, not that OP does this. I have a 9.5y/o golden for whom I had huge plans when I bought her. I was going to title her to master and breed her. She developed elbow dysplasia when she was about 9 months old (bilateral OCD). She had corrective surgery and has had a long, happy career hunting ducks. She's retired now and I give her Adequan shots monthly to stave off arthritis, so all's well that ends well. That said, sometimes I look back and wonder if me letting her jump off of high places when she was a puppy contributed to or caused her dysplasia. The next puppy I get will not be allowed to jump off of anything over knee height onto hard ground until she is fully developed.

@OP, regarding the issue, it could be a number of things. Tendon/ligament tear or strain, dysplasia, pano, etc. Just get some imaging done, be patient with the pup, and try to keep comfortable. Let us know what the imaging turns up. I get the stress, but my dog has been hands down the best dog I've ever had and she's lived her whole life with elbow dysplasia.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 9:32 am
Posted by cajungoalie
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
520 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:15 pm to
My bet its CCL, Cranial Cruciate Ligament (Dog ACL). Ours tore her's at 9 months, "tight rope" surgery to repair, then injured other one 3 months later.

Can be common in labs.

Good luck
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2509 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:10 pm to
Thanks for all the information. It looks like dysplasia according to the vet I went to today. He was going to send the X-rays to MSU and get another opinion. I will probably have to take him to MSU, and learn more about our options then. Hopefully it isn’t dysplasia, and he can get back to doing what he loves after a minor procedure. It is only one hip that is the problem as of right now.

He hasn’t jumped from higher then 20ish inches that I know of.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:18 pm to
Sorry to hear that Reb. Being a young dog though lots of (surgical) options.

I'd definitely check your contract and contact your breeder. If reputable, they will care, may want to have your dog's xrays seen by their vet, may have advice to offer and possibly even pay for treatment (or refund cost of the pup.)
Posted by CatSquirrel
Southaven, Ms
Member since Sep 2012
116 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:05 pm to
Who is your vet? Are you in Oxford?

Highly recommend Lee Payne at Animal Clinic of Oxford. He takes care of our 5 field trial labs.
If you haven't seen him, I would get a second opinion from him.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2509 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:05 pm to
Yea, the pup is under contract. I have talked to the breeder/kennels 3 times in the past 24hrs, and sent them the x-rays. I’m just hoping it isn’t something that will put him out of commission. He was shaping up to be one of the best dogs I have ever had. He was up to deer trailing commands and was starting to blind retrieve single piles.

I live in Belzoni and was using a vet in Greenwood. I got second opinion today in Greenville, and am expecting to get another from MSU in a week or two.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24937 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Highly recommend Lee Payne at Animal Clinic of Oxford


I know Lee well. We grew up in the same town. I was a couple of years older than him.

He’s a very good vet.

Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2509 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:58 pm to
Pic

I couldn’t get the pic to post but that link will take you to the X-ray. You can tell his right hip isn’t sitting in the joint.
Posted by Goldensammy
Cypress, TX
Member since Jun 2016
760 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:15 pm to
Sorry to hear that news. Hoping for the best.
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