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re: proposed speck and redfish changes
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:44 am to keakar
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:44 am to keakar
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CCA has one goal and one purpose, that is to create the most restrictive guidelines they can for recreational fishermen, while refusing to target the real issue of pogie boats and commercial fishing
I am by no means the biggest fan of CCA in LA. I have even called them multiple times to vent my frustration on various issues but they were not in support of the proposed rec changes.
CCA is going to follow the money and crowd with most things and they were working with the LA charter boat association to shut down the original proposition.
I keep seeing people shite on commercial fishing (I’m not a fan either) but precisely what commercial fishing industries, other than the pogey boats, are impacting the trout and redfish?
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 10:47 am
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:44 am to TJG210
Link to any viable studies in the last 2 yearsYou made an assertion. What's it based upon?
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:50 am to keakar
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CCA is the main one protecting the pogie boats because they are being paid off. CCA has one goal and one purpose, that is to create the most restrictive guidelines they can for recreational fishermen, while refusing to target the real issue of pogie boats and commercial fishing
Do you have any proof of that? I see the head guy from the CCA on Facebook constantly railing on the pogey boats. As an organization, I do feel their response has been lackluster.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:58 am to TJG210
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Do you have any proof of that? I see the head guy from the CCA on Facebook constantly railing on the pogey boats. As an organization, I do feel their response has been lackluster.
I agree with this. I think they are gonna be vocally against the pogey boats with certain groups but they are obviously toeing the line with some issues. They keep speaking out against the pogey boats but I am unaware of them actually having anything in motion to shut them down. I see them as a political lobbying organization as much as anything.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:59 am to AlxTgr
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You made an assertion. What's it based upon?
The last studies done that I’m aware of were done in a haphazard foolish way. No idea where I can find it now, but let’s not pretend that it doesn’t exist. You seem to be the only one refuting it.
Also don’t pretend like “the science” is infallible. How many years ago were these same scientists assuring us that there was next to no red snapper in the Gulf of Mexico off of the Louisiana coast due to their asinine data collection methods?
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/8/23 at 11:11 am to TJG210
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How many years ago were these same scientists assuring us that there was next to no red snapper in the Gulf of Mexico off of the Louisiana coast due to their asinine data collection methods?
Side note here, and not to beat a dead horse, but Greg Stunz was instrumental in providing research to get some of the snapper recs lifted. He is one of those “scientist” who believes tighter rec limits on trout would help our fishery.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 1:09 pm to hall59tiger
CCA and recreational anglers shutdown the gillnetters. Idk why a concerted war like that hasn’t been brought against the pogie boats. The gillnetters that were shutdown were at least mostly Louisiana residents, all the pogie boats are doing is raping our resources and taking the money from that out of the state. Louisiana gets nothing from Omega except plenty of dead gamefish.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 1:52 pm to Icansee4miles
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Idk why a concerted war like that hasn’t been brought against the pogie boats.
That’s my read on the situation.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 2:01 pm to TJG210
quote:omega protein way way more money than speck gill netters
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Idk why a concerted war like that hasn’t been brought against the pogie boats.
That’s my read on the situation.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 2:07 pm to choupiquesushi
True
Is Louisiana the only coastal state that’s politicians were able to be bought off? Legit question. I know other states have laws at least keeping them somewhat at bay.
Is Louisiana the only coastal state that’s politicians were able to be bought off? Legit question. I know other states have laws at least keeping them somewhat at bay.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/8/23 at 3:53 pm to TJG210
Let’s just say it’s an accepted and finely honed skill amongst Louisiana politicians. I think most other states have at least a mix of honest and those for sale, here, it’s why most run for office. Very much like those holding US congressional offices for decades and becoming multimillionaires on $170K/yr.
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:08 pm to Icansee4miles
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Idk why a concerted war like that hasn’t been brought against the pogie boats.
Because too many of yall are okay with dropping the limit on the record guys to "help" instead of going after the big problem
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:09 pm to choupiquesushi
I've been saying from beginning that it's gonna be 15 at 12". No way that it was gonna be any different. Anything different would have put even more pressure on redfish.
Going up 1 inch on reds is not that big of a deal. I don't keep the bigger ones anyway
Going up 1 inch on reds is not that big of a deal. I don't keep the bigger ones anyway
Posted on 7/8/23 at 10:14 pm to Higgysmalls
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Going up 1 inch on reds is not that big of a deal. I don't keep the bigger ones anyway
They took away 2 fish from the limit. The slot is now 18-24” as well.
I really don’t understand either of the changes, especially the size.
This post was edited on 7/8/23 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:12 am to AlxTgr
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:19 am to AlxTgr
That trout assessment is 2yrs old and doesn’t take into account the years since we had high River levels.
Those were the years where folks from Venice to grand isle were screaming there wasn’t a trout left in the water. Yet the last 2yrs with normal to low River levels we haven’t heard that, in fact quite the opposite.
Those were the years where folks from Venice to grand isle were screaming there wasn’t a trout left in the water. Yet the last 2yrs with normal to low River levels we haven’t heard that, in fact quite the opposite.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 9:24 am
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:30 am to TJG210
That was when they opened the spillway and they put their nets out in fresh water
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:35 am to maisweh
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put their nets out in fresh wate
Do we know this for sure? Genuinely asking here
I’ve always just assumed this was true but how can we be sure?
Posted on 7/9/23 at 9:52 am to hall59tiger
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Do we know this for sure?
I do remember it being specifically stated where the assessment was taken and it was an area that was likely inundated with river water. Could I find that study/citation with minimal effort, probably not. If I get bored later today I’ll try and find where that was specifically discussed on td.
This post was edited on 7/9/23 at 10:26 am
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