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re: proposed speck and redfish changes
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:10 pm to Speckledredflounder
Posted on 7/6/23 at 6:10 pm to Speckledredflounder
It really seems like they are doing things just for the sake of doing things. Any rhyme or reason 26” now? Realistically how many fish are caught and kept right at 27”?
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:02 pm to TJG210
quote:camp on deer range in my formative years... used to hammer specks in laurier and bay 5... reds OH MY
We used to have a camp in lake hermitage and that was my main experience encountering, that being said I haven’t fished that area in years. Mainly fish out of cocodrie now and have never seen any. Though I generally target specks.
Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:06 pm to choupiquesushi
My cousin had a camp on that canal as well. Don’t forget the reds in bay round.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 8:35 am to Speckledredflounder
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Fly Guides really put it on em in support for the decrease in redfish harvest. Took some shots to the bowfishing guides, which we knew was coming.
Of course. Fly guides would probably be in favor of 1 fish trout limits with catch and release reds only and make live bait illegal also
Posted on 7/7/23 at 9:41 am to maisweh
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Fly guides would probably be in favor of 1 fish trout limits with catch and release reds only and make live bait illegal also
This is true. They aren't harvesting fish. I'm ok with the the new regs but I can understand why some take issue.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 9:53 am to maisweh
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Of course. Fly guides would probably be in favor of 1 fish trout limits with catch and release reds only and make live bait illegal also
That's pretty dramatic. They just make their living off of redfish and see the decline of the numbers in the fishery (whatever the cause) firsthand more than any other guides do.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:17 am to bluemoons
Do you think recreational fishing(harvest) is part of the problem with reds?
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:28 am to AlxTgr
My personal opinion is that recreational harvest isn’t a major part of the problem, but it’s not helping anything. If you remove bowfishing and its effects on the actual physical location of redfish, I think the effects are even more minor.
That being said, I’ve watched the significant decline in the quality of the fishery over the last 7-10 years and I’m at the point where I think that anything that isn’t helping is hurting. So, if the science suggests that a decrease in recreational limits will help remedy the problem, which it does, then I’m all for it until the population recovers. I think the primary culprits for the decline in redfish numbers are pogie fishermen and decline in habitat and it’s infuriating to me that the state isn’t taking a more aggressive stance against the pogie industry.
I also understand why some take issue with the regulation because of governmental overreach and frustration with the government failing to address the problem as a whole. I share those sentiments to an extent, but like I mentioned earlier in this thread (I think), failing to address one issue is not a good excuse for failing to address another.
That being said, I’ve watched the significant decline in the quality of the fishery over the last 7-10 years and I’m at the point where I think that anything that isn’t helping is hurting. So, if the science suggests that a decrease in recreational limits will help remedy the problem, which it does, then I’m all for it until the population recovers. I think the primary culprits for the decline in redfish numbers are pogie fishermen and decline in habitat and it’s infuriating to me that the state isn’t taking a more aggressive stance against the pogie industry.
I also understand why some take issue with the regulation because of governmental overreach and frustration with the government failing to address the problem as a whole. I share those sentiments to an extent, but like I mentioned earlier in this thread (I think), failing to address one issue is not a good excuse for failing to address another.
This post was edited on 7/7/23 at 10:31 am
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:38 am to bluemoons
I agree with the government overreach point, but the sad reality is that without the gov regulations the recreational fishermen would destroy the fishery in a few years.
Pogey issue also needs to be addressed but I have a feeling that industry is in the right people's pockets.
Pogey issue also needs to be addressed but I have a feeling that industry is in the right people's pockets.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 10:48 am to bluemoons
Excellent points but our rapidly declining habitat is probably the single biggest issue , the barararia estuary is a shell of what it was 10,20,30, 40 and 50 years ago(I can only go back 50 years??). As a kid I can remember filling an ice chest from the bank behind Freeport Sulphur with - big specks reds sheep’s and flounder - now that would take a week plus of non stop fishing
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:30 am to choupiquesushi
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Excellent points but our rapidly declining habitat is probably the single biggest issue
I would agree. Not only an issue for targeted fish species either. I would have to imagine that there is a decrease in forage proportionate to square miles of marsh erosion. I don't think there is a major decline in crab fisherman. I don't see as many shrimp boats but still plenty around. All for commercial fishing guys making a profitable living but seems out of whack that we are shipping crabs and shrimp to all ends of the country. I think it'd help out if was more of a regional thing. I don't have the answer but seems like something could be figured out there.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:58 am to Taxman2010
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without the gov regulations the recreational fishermen would destroy the fishery in a few years.
Without current government regs or proposed regs? I see more dead redfish from pogey boats than I do people catching.
Sooooo, recs might not be the problem
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:59 am to Saskwatch
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don't see as many shrimp boats but still plenty around.
Because they dont make enough money, all older people and their kids don't want to continue. When the sheds are paying pennies compared to what they sell for on the side of the road
Posted on 7/7/23 at 1:14 pm to choupiquesushi
The Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission has adopted a Notice of Intent (NOI) to change the red drum harvest regulations in the following ways:
? Change the red drum size limit from a 16-inch minimum size limit and a 27-inch maximum size limit to an 18-inch minimum size limit total length and a 24-inch maximum size limit total length.
?Red drum's daily take and possession limit will be reduced from five fish per day to three fish per day
? The retention of any red drum above the maximum size limit of 24 inches total length will be prohibited
? The retention of red drum by captain and crew on charter or head boats will be prohibited. Charter guides and crew will still be allowed to engage in fishing on charter trips to demonstrate how to catch red drum, but will not be allowed to retain red drum toward any limit on the vessel.
? Change the red drum size limit from a 16-inch minimum size limit and a 27-inch maximum size limit to an 18-inch minimum size limit total length and a 24-inch maximum size limit total length.
?Red drum's daily take and possession limit will be reduced from five fish per day to three fish per day
? The retention of any red drum above the maximum size limit of 24 inches total length will be prohibited
? The retention of red drum by captain and crew on charter or head boats will be prohibited. Charter guides and crew will still be allowed to engage in fishing on charter trips to demonstrate how to catch red drum, but will not be allowed to retain red drum toward any limit on the vessel.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 2:47 pm to AlxTgr
From Texas this is all I have
Posted on 7/7/23 at 7:48 pm to AlxTgr
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The Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission has adopted a Notice of Intent (NOI) to change the red drum harvest regulations in the following ways:
I thought any changes were tabled?
Posted on 7/7/23 at 7:50 pm to bluemoons
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So, if the science suggests that a decrease in recreational limits
But the problem is that there is no science behind it. Has the ldwf done/released stock assessments in the last 2yrs?
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