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Planting Food Plots Without Spraying
Posted on 7/15/26 at 11:40 am
Posted on 7/15/26 at 11:40 am
Our club is wanting to move away from spraying glyphosate before we plant our food plots. Any of yall successfully done this without using a roller crimper?
I am afraid that if we don’t spray and we don’t use a crimper we are just going to end up over run with weeds and grass and have wasted our money. What are your thoughts?
I am afraid that if we don’t spray and we don’t use a crimper we are just going to end up over run with weeds and grass and have wasted our money. What are your thoughts?
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Posted on 7/15/26 at 11:46 am to weisertiger
I’ve done it. The weeds and grasses that are growing now are summer grasses, once cooler weather moves in that grass dies/turns dormant and your winter seeds you planted grow if enough rain.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 11:51 am to weisertiger
I agree,ya’ll will end up with weed patches.
I suggest an experiment,spray 1/2 of each food plots with glyphosate and see how the unsprayed portion does compared to sprayed.
Should settle the argument for the future.
I suggest an experiment,spray 1/2 of each food plots with glyphosate and see how the unsprayed portion does compared to sprayed.
Should settle the argument for the future.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 11:56 am to weisertiger
We don’t spray
We bush hog, till it up, and feed and fertilize all the same weekend
Comes out like this :
Done it this way for at least 10 years and every year the plot is lush . We use that feed and also add some turnip seeds
Maybe spraying would make it even better, but I can’t imagine it makes a material difference for our plot in terms of actual deer attraction. The turnips and everything else still get the shite eaten out them
We bush hog, till it up, and feed and fertilize all the same weekend
Comes out like this :
Done it this way for at least 10 years and every year the plot is lush . We use that feed and also add some turnip seeds
Maybe spraying would make it even better, but I can’t imagine it makes a material difference for our plot in terms of actual deer attraction. The turnips and everything else still get the shite eaten out them
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/15/26 at 12:08 pm to weisertiger
if you are crimping, are you planning on using a drill or disking?
I will sometimes spray and other times I've only disked after going over with the bush hog. Spraying definitely produces a better plot because of less weeds.
I will sometimes spray and other times I've only disked after going over with the bush hog. Spraying definitely produces a better plot because of less weeds.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 12:42 pm to LSUA 75
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I agree,ya’ll will end up with weed patches.
People want perfect food plotted with nothing showing but what they plant. Oftentimes the “weeds” there have more wildlife value than what is being planted
Posted on 7/15/26 at 1:51 pm to weisertiger
I have never sprayed. At our lease, I have a friend that tills mine up with his tractor and there isn't anything but fine dirt when he's done. At our property, I just use an ATV disc until everything is chopped up good. It takes a little while, but it's easy just riding back and forth on the four wheeler.
Both spots have always produced good plots.
ETA: I use the bagged plot mix and throw in wheat, rye, clover, and turnips.
Both spots have always produced good plots.
ETA: I use the bagged plot mix and throw in wheat, rye, clover, and turnips.
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/15/26 at 1:59 pm to Ron Cheramie
What Ron said!!
People put way too much effort into food plots and seeds. Deer are almost like goats, they eat anything.
People put way too much effort into food plots and seeds. Deer are almost like goats, they eat anything.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 2:10 pm to WillFerrellisking
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People put way too much effort into food plots and seeds. Deer are almost like goats, they eat anything.
True, but it makes me feel like I'm going to see more deer sitting there looking at a pretty green patch when everything else around is brown and dead.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 2:19 pm to weisertiger
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I am afraid that if we don’t spray and we don’t use a crimper we are just going to end up over run with weeds and grass and have wasted our money. What are your thoughts?
It works great if you can time it right with the rain. Those seeds will out compete the weeds if you can get them growing. The problem comes when you disc, plant, and then don’t get any rain. Those weeds will start to grow back.
I always cut as low a possible, spread fert, wait a week or two, spray, then plant.
But I’m OCD about my plots and want them looking like a magazine. The deer don’t care at all, but I do
Posted on 7/15/26 at 4:47 pm to weisertiger
You can talk to a couple of the hippies who hang out here like DaHammer. Hes into all the communist stuff.
I usually double the recommended rate of all herbicides and fertilizers. My motto has always been: Better Living Through Chemistry. So I can't really help you.
I usually double the recommended rate of all herbicides and fertilizers. My motto has always been: Better Living Through Chemistry. So I can't really help you.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 4:56 pm to REB BEER
No doubt!
Posted on 7/15/26 at 5:20 pm to REB BEER
The older I get the most important part of the plot is me being able to see the damn deer
I can’t see shite sometimes when it’s brown background instead of green
I can’t see shite sometimes when it’s brown background instead of green
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:08 pm to weisertiger
You don’t spray for weed control, you spray to help the tiller. Your mileage will vary depending on how much rain you’ve had to that point and your soil. If you’ve eradicated ryegrass, you may not notice much difference moving away from glyphosate. We sprayed clethodim early season last year to encourage clover in our larger plots and they tilled like a dream, where the smaller ones were a pain in the arse and took several passes due to it being dry as a bone and being solid grass by that point in the season.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:08 pm to weisertiger
For fall plots, spray or till or both. Or accept really really crappy results. The crimping is a possibility on some well managed summer food plots. Not fall.
This post was edited on 7/15/26 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 7/15/26 at 7:45 pm to weisertiger
We put more spray around the edges to keep the plots from getting taking from the privet and briars.
One light spray about 3 weeks before choppers in the fall. Just enough to knock the moisture out the summer grass and make it easy to bust up.
If you have the right equipment and time you can definitely do without.
One light spray about 3 weeks before choppers in the fall. Just enough to knock the moisture out the summer grass and make it easy to bust up.
If you have the right equipment and time you can definitely do without.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 9:34 pm to No Colors
We don’t spray we are full regenerative at our place. That being said a roller crimper wouldn’t help you anyway it only kills hollow stem plants. Weeds will get rolled and pop right back up.
As others have said not all weeds are bad.
As others have said not all weeds are bad.
Posted on 7/15/26 at 10:45 pm to Da Hammer
I have a roller crimper we made and I’m having trouble finding use for it.
The cool season plots from last year all got trampled by deer and pigs anyway
The cool season plots from last year all got trampled by deer and pigs anyway
Posted on 7/15/26 at 11:21 pm to The Levee
Can someone tell me the benefits of crimping verses just passing a bush hog and cutting the grass?
Crimping lays the grass down, bush hogging leaves thatch. What’s the main difference or end goal?
Crimping lays the grass down, bush hogging leaves thatch. What’s the main difference or end goal?
Posted on 7/16/26 at 6:51 am to WillFerrellisking
You are trying to suppress weeds and give our soil armor from the sun.
With a bushhog it creates thatch but it balls up in rows, doesn't give you good coverage and is too thick in many areas to allow your planted plants to grow through.
With a roller crimper you crimp and terminate at the "yolk" stage of the seed formation process and the plants lay down and protect the soil health and allow the plants to grow.
I'm very old school and have no earthly idea how to host a picture these days but I have some very good ones from this spring I can post up. The idea is to suppress weeds and also keep your microbes from cooking especially right now. I tested our soil temperatures last weekend and there was an average 18-23 degree difference between under the thatch and exposed areas in peak heat of the day.
With a bushhog it creates thatch but it balls up in rows, doesn't give you good coverage and is too thick in many areas to allow your planted plants to grow through.
With a roller crimper you crimp and terminate at the "yolk" stage of the seed formation process and the plants lay down and protect the soil health and allow the plants to grow.
I'm very old school and have no earthly idea how to host a picture these days but I have some very good ones from this spring I can post up. The idea is to suppress weeds and also keep your microbes from cooking especially right now. I tested our soil temperatures last weekend and there was an average 18-23 degree difference between under the thatch and exposed areas in peak heat of the day.
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