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CaptainJ47
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Gonzales
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Outdoor Kitchens
Ok I think I am ready to bite the bullet on an outdoor kitchen and patio. I believe it will be L shaped to wrap around a portion of my pool. Should be about 720 square feet or so. Live in Ascension parish and am curious about any highly recommended contractors and/or costs. I am thinking it will be stamped concrete- I need something with a texture due to pool proximity. I anticipate it being open air but possibly be able to have either big shutters or big barn doors.

For those that have done this, what are you must pleased with or wish you had? I expect to am have a full fridge, extra ice maker, and a dishwasher outside. Any other musts?

Thanks


4LSU2
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Madisonville
Member since Dec 2009
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re: Outdoor Kitchens
I highly recommend you keeping your underground plumbing on the "exterior wall" side of the area. The cost to remove a portion of the slab to fix a busted water line on an outdoor sink/ ice maker is absurd a few years down the road.

The ice maker is a maintenance issue waiting to happen. They look and feel great until they go out 15 months after installation.

I'd also recommend a natural gas drop for a grill and cooker along the back wall of the house. See above, don't put this on the exterior wall side, as that should be for water.


wickowick
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Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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re: Outdoor Kitchens
Plan the location of the kitchen where it provides sun/ shade for the pool when you need it.


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CaptainJ47
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re: Outdoor Kitchens
Thanks for the ideas. What is nice is when the house was built the a frame basically stopped and was ready to be extended. Therefore water is ready to be run. I like the idea on the gas piece as well.

Interesting about the ice maker. As much as we drink outside my perception is it will be essential.

Once concern I do have is minimizing the humidity to prevent rust.


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wickowick
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re: Outdoor Kitchens
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I expect to am have a full fridge, extra ice maker, and a dishwasher outside.


That means you need to be able to tie into the drain line of the home, you need to check where that is located and if that is possible.


CaptainJ47
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Gonzales
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4615 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
Good news is that shouldn't be a problem to tie into the main drain line given the location. What I would like to also do is have a floor drain in the event I needed to hose down the floor.


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FriscoKid
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Red Stick
Member since Jan 2005
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re: Outdoor Kitchens
Oasis Spaces
Mike Porter - Bernard & Normand
Vertical Construction
GW Oliver
Mike Telich
NYS - Emile
Joey Blanchard
Go to ShoppersChoice on Coursey and ask to talk with their B2B salesman. There are way too many variables to give an accurate cost estimate. Anywhere from 50k-100k+


Fetch78
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The Woodlands, Tx
Member since Dec 2010
379 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
When you find a builder, ask if they do carve stone. It's a non slid surface. Should be able to do any color, any pattern. Stamped concrete will be very slick when it first gets wet. If you have kids, can be dangerous. Stamped will also fade much faster. I build pools and outdoor kitchens in Tx. We always recommend carve stone. Runs about a $1 more per sq ft


Ole Geauxt
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KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
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re: Outdoor Kitchens
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The ice maker is a maintenance issue waiting to happen. They look and feel great until they go out 15 months after installation.


If you have to have one, by all means, keep up the service contract. Seriously... I learned my lesson,, a few times..


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CaptainJ47
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Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
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re: Outdoor Kitchens
Thanks a ton fetch!


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CaptainJ47
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Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
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Frisco- great insight thanks. Yeah, I am ball parking 50-60k or so. We are outside and entertain all the time. It is an investment for the long run for us.


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Drop4Loss
Birds Eye Of Deaf Valley
Member since Oct 2007
2841 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
For Cabinets Id go with galvanized frame metal studs, cement board and real stucco exterior on the cabinets

Granite tops, nothing to rot/burn and ya can just hose it out.

Those high costs are bull shite. I have 30 feet of cabinets, and for the above it was about $6500

Roof structure and slab of course extra. I did plumbing
and electrical

Got drawers, and door hardware from Shoppers Choice, you must take a look there, out back/rear they have it all.
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NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
7470 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
Garbage disposal.


rodnreel
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South La.
Member since Apr 2011
807 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
I built combo building 40' by 24' a year ago. 24' by 24' enclosed building "shop" and covered 16' by 24' seating area. all cooking equipment and TV is on wheels and gets stored inside. Whatever I need, I roll it outside.

One feature of mine is I installed a 125 gal. propane tank with both high and low pressure regulators, each with its own hookup. High for boiling/frying seafood and low for gas grill. The tanks gets filled from a truck whenever I call. I don't fool with the small propane tanks anymore.

In the building I installed a 300# ice maker and a full size ref. with glass door.


CaptainJ47
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Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
4615 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
Good call on the disposal.


CaptainJ47
Hawaii Fan
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2007
4615 posts

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Nice size place and my interest is certainly building for gas hookups.


halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1012 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
They make exterior ice makers for under cabinet applications, I would go with one of those.

Unless they make outdoor rated dishwashers, I wouldn't even try it. If so, get the longest warranty they offer. Or go cheap and plan on replacing regularly.



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NOLAGT
Over there
Member since Dec 2012
7470 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
I used mine a lot...I got a 1hp so I can grind up a lot. Blaze makes a good outdoor fridge with a nice trim kit so it looks built in not just slid in. I have a DCS dual burner...I think that one was one of the higher BTU ones. Every spot you can, put doors and drawers...no need in wasted empty space. A pull out garbage can. Make sure the doors are not just one thin exterior sheet of SS or they will be too flimsy. I went with RCS Agape doors drawers and trash can and really like them. If you plan to fry stuff and have 2 or more fryers or might one day put 2 separate circuits...or maybe 20amp might be enough. I have 15 and the 2 fryers will sometimes trip it so I have to run an extension cord. I would probably skip the dish washer too...I wouldn't want to take up my under counter space with one and I wouldn't use it that much....just bring it inside but that me. Get a nice big sink and one of those faucets that you would see in a restaurant kitchen that you can unhook and use as a sprayer. Mine is not the kind that the hose slides in and out of the faucet but it has the flexible tall U shape.
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Broyota2
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2010
9859 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
We did ours about a year and a half ago. Put in Blaze appliances. Grill, Small Fridge, side burner, full sink. Nice granite tops and a stacked stone look on the outside. Also put in a 44 inch Samsung for football season and got an outdoor speaker system put in. Will post some pics later. Very pleased with my Blaze appliances they look and work great. Best grill I've ever had. Would highly recommend looking into the Blaze brand. It was a great decision we are always outside.
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fishbig
Member since Feb 2007
1377 posts

re: Outdoor Kitchens
In the process of building our new home. I decided on buying a 40" lion premium grill and a blaze power burner. Will also be purchasing a primo XL later on along with a grill barrow(but damn, they should make those things more attractive)


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