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re: Official AR-15 thread
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:15 am to LSUfreak1459
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:15 am to LSUfreak1459
Schmidt and Bender short dot 1-8 or Swaro Z8i 1-8.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:22 am to LSUfreak1459
I don't know that there is one off the shelf that will have the best of everything. To do that he would have to build it. Off the top of my head, I would build as follows:
Noveske matched upper and lower
Wilson Combat match barrel 16"
Geissele 15" MK8 rail, comes with Geissele gas block
Geissele SD-E trigger
Radian Talon ambi safety
Radian Raptor charging handle
BCM or DD bolt carrier group
That's all the guts for a superb AR. Remaining parts all depend on shooter preference. If he wants off the rack, I would probably go with a BCM, you could get a complete lower and a 16" upper with the new MCMR rail. That would leave him with enough to spend on good glass.
Noveske matched upper and lower
Wilson Combat match barrel 16"
Geissele 15" MK8 rail, comes with Geissele gas block
Geissele SD-E trigger
Radian Talon ambi safety
Radian Raptor charging handle
BCM or DD bolt carrier group
That's all the guts for a superb AR. Remaining parts all depend on shooter preference. If he wants off the rack, I would probably go with a BCM, you could get a complete lower and a 16" upper with the new MCMR rail. That would leave him with enough to spend on good glass.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 11:25 am
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:26 am to ChatRabbit77
I told him the short dot 1-8 would be my choice. He's trying to decide what magnification range he wants. I'll come back when he nails it down. Just wanted to give him some options.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:43 am to LSUfreak1459
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I said I'd choose noveske but I also have him looking at DD and LaRue.
In that price range and out of those 3 I'd probably go DD. The best rifles are dependable and accurate. A rifle can only be a finite amount, topping out at 100%, of those qualities. Above the price that gets you the desired level of dependable and accurate, you are buying subjective things like names and aesthetics, which to each their own.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:14 pm to Propagandalf
Well I lean Noveske because not many people have one and I can pick up a DD today if I wanted too. He had never heard of Noveske but likes that it's not as widely available like a DD. I told him in my opinion you can buy any of those 3 and they will all shoot accurate and go bang every time. And you will love which ever one you get. It's just if he wants to pony up a little more for the Noveske name.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:15 pm to LSUfreak1459
You get everything you want and need out of a DD. I’d pick Noveske if money wasn’t an option, or if I’m dealing with anything SBR related.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:28 pm to LSUfreak1459
I own a Noveske. I like it a lot and fit and finish is great. That said, I am not going to tell you it is made out of some magic metal or that it outperforms guns that cost much less. I like the company and the way their guns look so I bought it.
This is the Noveske I own (not an actual pic but one I grabbed online)

This is the Noveske I own (not an actual pic but one I grabbed online)

Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:39 pm to ChatRabbit77
That's pretty sweet. I'm well aware they aren't made of magical metal. But like you, I like the company and the look.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:48 pm to LSUfreak1459
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That's pretty sweet. I'm well aware they aren't made of magical metal. But like you, I like the company and the look.
I will say, I paid like $2600 for it and it comes with an ALG trigger and a cardboard box. To me that is unacceptable.
Posted on 11/6/17 at 12:55 pm to ChatRabbit77
I never understood the ALG trigger either. I told him if he went Noveske he'd want to change the trigger. Now the Noveske Rival comes with a Geissele trigger but I think everything else is ALG. I used an ALG on my 300 BLK build. It a decent cheap trigger but not worthy of a $2500 rifle.
This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 1:42 pm to LSUfreak1459
Speaking of DD rifles. I am in the process of updating/modding my DDM4v5lw I got back in 2012. It had the standard magpul stock and grip on it and the picatinny quad rail (going to be selling). I switched out to the milspec + color DD stock and pistol grip put in a elftmann adj trigger.
Now I am to the point of installing the MFR 15.0 rail on it that I got. I have never changed out hand rails yet so im gathering the tools needed. I need to take off the barrel nut to change out the mounting plate between the nut and receiver. I am guessing the gas block needs to come off becasue the nut wont pass it. I am going to run the gun suppressed and un suppressed so I was thinking id take this time to do a adj gas block as well?
I have a punch and hammer set, magpul armors wrench, bench vice, Wheeler receiver vice block w/ gas tube guide, and a standard TQ wrench. What else should I get...gas tube holder? Anyone know if the DD gas block/barrel is dimpled for a new SLR block or should I get a clamp on?
Pull weight with the DD trigger

Now I am to the point of installing the MFR 15.0 rail on it that I got. I have never changed out hand rails yet so im gathering the tools needed. I need to take off the barrel nut to change out the mounting plate between the nut and receiver. I am guessing the gas block needs to come off becasue the nut wont pass it. I am going to run the gun suppressed and un suppressed so I was thinking id take this time to do a adj gas block as well?
I have a punch and hammer set, magpul armors wrench, bench vice, Wheeler receiver vice block w/ gas tube guide, and a standard TQ wrench. What else should I get...gas tube holder? Anyone know if the DD gas block/barrel is dimpled for a new SLR block or should I get a clamp on?
Pull weight with the DD trigger

This post was edited on 11/6/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 11/6/17 at 4:26 pm to NOLAGT
Gonna start an SBR build. How difficult is the tax stamp process?
Posted on 11/6/17 at 6:08 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Its not...its the time it takes is the hard part. Look at silencer shop online. Find the places that have the fingerprint/picture machines.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 6:25 am to NOLAGT
Question for all you AR guru's.
I ended up with 2 PSA AR pistols NIB but would prefer them as rifles, my question is as follows.
Will any 16 inch barrel fit and work properly?
Would rather get it right first time rather than trial and error, tried google but the answers were all over the place.
I ended up with 2 PSA AR pistols NIB but would prefer them as rifles, my question is as follows.
Will any 16 inch barrel fit and work properly?
Would rather get it right first time rather than trial and error, tried google but the answers were all over the place.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:15 am to cave canem
Just the barrel?
If your gas block is pinned you will need (well want really) a new gas block. Also the pistol length barrel will (maybe, probably) have a different gas tube length so that will be needed. If the gas block is pinned you will also probably just want to get a new barrel nut so you don't have to pound the gas block roll pins out.
Now that you've invested in a new barrel, barrel nut, gas block, and gas tube, you might as well just buy an upper receiver, hand guard, and muzzle device and make a new upper.
Now that you have a new upper you decide to get a new BCG and charging handle so you don't have to swap them back and forth going from pistol to rifle config.
Now you have an extra complete upper laying around. For $130 + FFL fees you could just add a new lower so you don't have to swap the lower out every time you want to use the rifle upper.
And this my friends is how upgrading 1 AR turns into two. It's science. So you might as well skip the middle man and just buy a 3rd rifle in the configuration you want.
If your gas block is pinned you will need (well want really) a new gas block. Also the pistol length barrel will (maybe, probably) have a different gas tube length so that will be needed. If the gas block is pinned you will also probably just want to get a new barrel nut so you don't have to pound the gas block roll pins out.
Now that you've invested in a new barrel, barrel nut, gas block, and gas tube, you might as well just buy an upper receiver, hand guard, and muzzle device and make a new upper.
Now that you have a new upper you decide to get a new BCG and charging handle so you don't have to swap them back and forth going from pistol to rifle config.
Now you have an extra complete upper laying around. For $130 + FFL fees you could just add a new lower so you don't have to swap the lower out every time you want to use the rifle upper.
And this my friends is how upgrading 1 AR turns into two. It's science. So you might as well skip the middle man and just buy a 3rd rifle in the configuration you want.
This post was edited on 11/10/17 at 8:17 am
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:24 am to DeoreDX
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And this my friends is how upgrading 1 AR turns into two. It's science. So you might as well skip the middle man and just buy a 3rd rifle in the configuration you want.
This.
It always starts out with "I just to make this one change" and before you know it you'll have 3 more rifles.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:35 am to LSUfreak1459
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It always starts out with "I just to make this one change" and before you know it you'll have 3 more rifles.
I already have several other rifles, just have never changed barrel alone and do not consider myself an armorer.
Not expecting much, just wanted to make them long guns and they will likely live a long unused life in a safe.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 8:52 am to cave canem
Does it have a front sight gas block? Standard handguards? You will need an armorer's wrench ($20) to remove the stock star shaped barrel but.
Lets say you get a cheap barrel ($80) then a cheap armorer's wrench ($20) and a cheap gas tube ($12) and gas block ($20). You'r in for about $130ish.
PSA has had complete 16" Freedom uppers in the $160-180 shipped range recently. Hard to justify just a barrel swap at that price. I would check out PSA and wait until they get a config you like at a price you like.
Lets say you get a cheap barrel ($80) then a cheap armorer's wrench ($20) and a cheap gas tube ($12) and gas block ($20). You'r in for about $130ish.
PSA has had complete 16" Freedom uppers in the $160-180 shipped range recently. Hard to justify just a barrel swap at that price. I would check out PSA and wait until they get a config you like at a price you like.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 9:19 am to DeoreDX
Speaking of PSA... anyone have any experience with their products? I picked up a PSA10 gen 2 lower bc it was dirt cheap on a sale. It was an impulse buy and now I'm stuck having to buy an upper
. Just saw they came out with a 6.5 creedmore upper. Thinking of pulling the trigger in the future. Just curious of what I can expect accuracy and reliability wise.
Posted on 11/10/17 at 9:43 am to LSUfreak1459
I have a PSA 10 lower as well. Haven't built anything with it yet but will I have a .308 barrel that I took off my other gun (switched it to 6.5 cm).
I also have a stripped Aero upper for it.
So, to answer your question, no other than a stripped lower I don't have any experience with them. Really gotta get my but in gear.
I have 3 80% lowers that I've done nothing with as well.
I also have a stripped Aero upper for it.
So, to answer your question, no other than a stripped lower I don't have any experience with them. Really gotta get my but in gear.
I have 3 80% lowers that I've done nothing with as well.
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