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New to TD, was wondering what happenned to all the quail in S Louisiana?

Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted by Willy Wanka
Merica
Member since Oct 2018
10 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:52 pm
We used to have them, but they all but gone down here.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:57 pm to
Northern states are flooding corn fields and short stopping them before they make it down.



Wait what
This post was edited on 10/25/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21671 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:58 pm to
Small, patchy farms with brush and hedgerows have been replaced by huge, clean farms. Insecticides probably don't help either. It's the same in AL. My dad was a big quail hunter when I was young, but he quit and sold his dogs due to not having any quail to hunt anymore.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25413 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:59 pm to
damn Quails Unlimited
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
2363 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:59 pm to
Egrets eat the babies around here (south AL). And they are a protected species. I've seen hundreds of baby quail run from under a brush pile and get eaten by egrets following a farm implement of some sort
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6496 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 12:59 pm to
Fire ants and loss of habitat
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12705 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Small, patchy farms with brush and hedgerows have been replaced by huge, clean farms.

This right here. Even the smaller farms are a problem, because they keep the fencerows clean.

The lack of burning in pineywoods hurt too, but the return of fire is helping some. I've seen where NRCS has worked with landowners in Texas to bring quail back through grazing management. Would be cool to see that here as well.
Posted by Willy Wanka
Merica
Member since Oct 2018
10 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:00 pm to
didn't know quail were migratory.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37472 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:01 pm to
Fireants and loss of native grasslands
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25943 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Fire ants and loss of habitat
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:25 pm to
fire ants are not an issue, plenty of other ground birds like killdeer do fine. The main issues are the loss of habitat.

Habitat is the main issue, they are making a slight rebound in Kisatchie where increased burning is providing more favorable habitat. Large farms, with no weeds, is the main issue...
Posted by BigHoss
Offshore
Member since Apr 2010
3353 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:27 pm to
Fire ants have a much smaller effect than you think.

There are fire ants in quail country.

Habitat destruction and the planting of short leaf pines that can’t be/aren’t burned
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:30 pm to
It’s those god damned nets they put up in Arkansas
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30442 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:31 pm to
loss of habitat and changes in land use practices... and predators mammalian and avian....



actually armadillos probably a much larger threat than fire ants....


Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:31 pm to
The only way quail return to Louisiana in huntable numbers is through burning.

There is no current format that farmers could employ on a large scale and stay profitable that would benefit quail...
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

actually armadillos probably a much larger threat than fire ants....


this is very true, many more quail eggs are lost to predators before they are born than to adult birds. Adults birds the main predator is a few birds of prey.
Posted by Willy Wanka
Merica
Member since Oct 2018
10 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

armadillos
Cant think of 1 good reason why God invented these?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:42 pm to
Do you have bird dogs or just asking a general question about quail?
Posted by Willy Wanka
Merica
Member since Oct 2018
10 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:45 pm to
No bird dogs now, but used to hunt them in S Louisiana as a kid with dogs. Now its woodcock after a hard cold front in Dec/Jan.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45794 posts
Posted on 10/25/18 at 1:47 pm to
Yep woodcock are the upland game now in Louisiana...
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