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re: New to TD, was wondering what happenned to all the quail in S Louisiana?
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:43 am to Ron Cheramie
Posted on 10/26/18 at 7:43 am to Ron Cheramie
When I lived in thibodaux by a mix of cane and cow pasture I heard them all the time. This thread made me remember I haven't heard one in forever.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:01 am to Ron Cheramie
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on a positive note I was running across coveys in places where quail haven't been seen in a long time in ouachita and Richland parishes all these areas were retired farmland reforested under WRP program the farmers hadn't seen quail there in decades
The WRP will provide decent quail habitat for a couple of years, but once it grows up the quail numbers will drop again.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:05 am to wickowick
yep looks good for a few years then the trees shade out everything
there are a few places that planted native grass strips up there that look pretty good
there are a few places that planted native grass strips up there that look pretty good
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:06 am to WPsportsman
quote:My last limit of wild LA quail came in washington parish...
I live in Washington parish my dad had bird dog
2004....
next to and on ben's creek
and yes some of the sugar cane edges provide the best habitat in south la.....
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 8:08 am
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:10 am to choupiquesushi
2017 Range-wide Accomplishment Report Details Longleaf Restoration Work
The current goal is 8 million acres
The current goal is 8 million acres
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In 2017, approximately 131,250 acres of new longleaf pine were planted, with an increase in planting occurring on private lands. Prescribed burning took place on 1.37 million acres across both public and private lands. Additionally, a new reporting category was included in this year’s Report to account for silvicultural activities, meaning 5,600 acres of new longleaf stands were created through hardwood pine removal, prescribed fire, and other activities that converted an existing forest into a new longleaf forest.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:14 am to Ron Cheramie
Quail Forever is currently in the process of hiring a quail/land biologist for a portion of Louisiana to assist landowners with habitat management.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:21 am to wickowick
that's great news
there are a couple of properties in sw la that had remnant prairies and they are doing restoration there and seeing quite a bit of quail responding to it gotta be some landowners that would like to put their land into a program to benefit quail and not just for growing trees
the push for longleaf is a great thing but far too many properties are enrolled that are less than 100 acres very hard to find someone to burn less than 100 acres even harder to find someone to thin it and afraid they will have to pay someone to thin it and it will never get thinned or burned
there are a couple of properties in sw la that had remnant prairies and they are doing restoration there and seeing quite a bit of quail responding to it gotta be some landowners that would like to put their land into a program to benefit quail and not just for growing trees
the push for longleaf is a great thing but far too many properties are enrolled that are less than 100 acres very hard to find someone to burn less than 100 acres even harder to find someone to thin it and afraid they will have to pay someone to thin it and it will never get thinned or burned
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:25 am to Ron Cheramie
quote:wick and I made a couple of hunts on one of these places.. years ago.....near acadia jeff davis line
there are a couple of properties in sw la that had remnant prairies and they are doing restoration there and seeing quite a bit of quail responding to it gotta be some landowners that would like to put their land into a program to benefit quail and not just for growing trees
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:30 am to choupiquesushi
couple in calcasieu also
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:30 am to Ron Cheramie
Quail are currently are piggybacking the endangered red-cockaded woodpecker on federal lands. 80% of what is good for the woodpecker is good for the quail. This is also one of the pushes for longleaf pine restoration and burning on federal lands.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:32 am to wickowick
quote:Lots at Indian Creek.
red-cockaded woodpecker
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:36 am to wickowick
the woodpecker is the quails best friend in louisiana!
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:38 am to Willy Wanka
I was told by a wildlife biologist that the pine plantations and fire ants wiped them out in North La, we used to have a fair amount too.
Never forget as a kid walking through the woods and a covey gets up, would scare the crap out of you.
Never forget as a kid walking through the woods and a covey gets up, would scare the crap out of you.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:44 am to Ron Cheramie
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the woodpecker is the quails best friend in louisiana!
It really is, the only thing that would be better would be reducing the pine tree density on the federal lands to between 40-60% allowing more sunlight to get to the ground. The woodpecker like it thicker, but there has been some compromise in certain areas of kisatchie.
What is good for the quail also happens to be good for many other animals and insects, deer turkey, bees, etc. The problems with this type of habit management much more expensive than a plant it and forget it typically found in Louisiana.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 8:57 am to wickowick
This is the current state of longleaf pine.


Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:22 am to Ron Cheramie
quote:Get certified through LSU AgCenter and burn it yourself. Certification protects you from lawyers.
the push for longleaf is a great thing but far too many properties are enrolled that are less than 100 acres very hard to find someone to burn less than 100 acres even harder to find someone to thin it and afraid they will have to pay someone to thin it and it will never get thinned or burned
I'll add from what I've seen burning is pretty expensive to hire done.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 9:25 am
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:23 am to White Bear
there is a guy from NO that does pretty well on private property next to desoto.. near wiggins....
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:35 am to White Bear
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Get certified through LSU AgCenter and burn it yourself. Certification protects you from lawyers.
There is lots of help out there, grants, etc from both the state and federal level. Last time I talked with the LDWF upland biologist, I think there is money earmarked for initial burns on private land. There is also a Louisiana Prescribed Fire Council.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:12 am to wickowick
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I think there is money earmarked for initial burns on private land.
there is. la dept of ag and forestry came out to my place a few years ago and bulldozed some paths into the woods i have to help it dry out - it was REALLY thick with privit. they also cut fire breaks around my perimeter. i let the woods "dry out" for a year and burned the next year and the year after that. most of the pivit is now gone and i've got plenty of beauty berry, poke weed, and wild cherry starting to pop up.
i've noticed an increase in turkeys pretty quick.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:27 am to mack the knife
Yep. LDAF burns, but I think you still pay something for that service. Not as much as a private company though. I've spoken with a few guys that have had burns done by LDAF in the Evangeline/St. Landry area. Also, the payment scenario for prescribed burning through NFCS's EQIP program includes having someone burn if I remember correctly. So that helps defer the costs.
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