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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by D500MAG
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:33 pm to
yes
then you need holding/sedimentation area upstream of filter. after that you just regulate flow to filter.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:35 pm to
I haven't dealt with sewer treatment since I was at Cajun, but I have some contacts I can provide you if you want to contact them about products and such.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:38 pm to
everyone.

I'll be sure to cite the OB in our references

Now on to making a DIY regulator
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:53 pm to
That part of a slow sand filtration system?

I did several projects on that for Dr. Malone.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:54 pm to
Somewhat yea
Posted by Dooshay
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:07 pm to
you could put two of them together. lemme draw it out real quick...
Posted by Dooshay
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:16 pm to


float activates bilge to recirc if there's no current runoff
you can make the run big, but if you are getting a lot of runoff it'll overflow no matter what you do.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:19 pm to
Yea if we decide to use a pump we'll do something similar to that
Posted by Nodust
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:25 pm to
Is there a water powered pump you could use?

Depending on the amount of pressure the I coming water is maybe it could run a pump or siphon some how. Your only going to be recirculating a certain percent of the total incoming water.

Say you bring in 100 gallons of water, but the filter only handles 80 gallons per minute. You only need to push 20 gallons back up to the filter. Maybe an inductor would work. Depending on elevations of all the parts. But you may have enough power to do that.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:27 pm to
Possibility

We're focussing on the filter itself right now. I just am kind if jumping ahead and thinking of what to do with excess water
Posted by AHouseDivided
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Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:48 pm to
When you install it and need a safety man to watch the messicans ... Think of me.

Posted by AboveGroundPool
the basin
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 8:19 am to
we did our senior project on something similar to this, but that was 7 years ago and sadly i can't remember most of it, we were treating sewage
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:19 am to
a couple of Q:

What will the filtered water in the perforated pipe be going too? potable water source, irrigation, etc.

What level of "clean" will the filtered water need to be?

Would you prefer all water going in both pipes gets filtered eventually?

If overflow pipe water can not be filtered due to excessive rate of accumulation can it be discharged alternatively?






Do I understand your problem correctly?

You want to filter all water through the perforated pipe and filter bed which is a gravity and pressure dependent rate limiting process. You want the perforated pipe to have a continuously open discharge. In times of excessive accumulation you need a fail safe overflow pipe. You then want the flow into the overflow pipe to also be filtered as long as the process requires no power and thus want to gate the overflow pipe accumulation and divert that gated volume through the filter bed. In the event the overflow pipe's rate of accumulation exceeds the allowable gated volume causing the overflow pipe to fill completely, you then want to open the overflow gate and allow unfiltered discharge of the excess accumulation. You then want the gate to once again close when the volume in the overflow pipe is reduced to the point that the filter pipe can tolerate.


Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:24 am to
That's not what he said he wanted to do, though.

quote:

**What I want to do, is ONLY allow water to leave through the bottom pipe when water is leaving through the overflow pipe. So only when water is overflowing into the vertical pipe.**



In your pic, water is leaving the sand box into the silt box as soon as it makes it through the sand.


Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:34 am to
Yea so the perforated pipe is to collect and discharge "clean" water. Not up to drinking standards but wont have metals and oil and grease and such.

The overflow is for high rain events. Which we will get lots of and even small rain events will produce lots of water over even small areas like a parking lot. We are trying to decide what to do with this water.

One idea is to simply say screw it and just get rid of it (however it will not have been treated). But this filter idea is going to be fitted where no current filter exists anyway so something is better than nothing.)


The idea we had that's probably better(no water goes untreated), and someone mentioned in here as well, is a retention pond before the filter. We just need to design a cheap regulator to only let 'X' amount into the filter at any time. Will increase the volume of the system indirectly and we won't have to discharge polluted water.
This post was edited on 10/30/13 at 10:37 am
Posted by pooponsaban
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:38 am to
That looks hard. Like something I'd hire somebody else to do along with changing my oil and sighting in my many rifles.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:41 am to
quote:

I think the bottom pipe will eventually clog itself anyway whether it works or not.


You would have to put gravel down over the bottom pipe to prevent dirt from entering.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:45 am to

Haven't read much of the thread but this is your answer.
This post was edited on 10/30/13 at 10:53 am
Posted by jimbeam
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:47 am to
quote:

You would have to put gravel down over the bottom pipe to prevent dirt from entering
Bingo.


already in the plans


i'll go ahead and pay for $20 internet dollars for your contribution now
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:21 am to
I am not reading this whole thread, but have you started growing your weed yet?
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