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Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:35 pm to jimbeam
I haven't dealt with sewer treatment since I was at Cajun, but I have some contacts I can provide you if you want to contact them about products and such.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:38 pm to Capt ST
I'll be sure to cite the OB in our references
Now on to making a DIY regulator
Posted on 10/29/13 at 9:53 pm to jimbeam
That part of a slow sand filtration system?
I did several projects on that for Dr. Malone.
I did several projects on that for Dr. Malone.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:07 pm to jimbeam
you could put two of them together. lemme draw it out real quick...
Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:16 pm to Dooshay
float activates bilge to recirc if there's no current runoff
you can make the run big, but if you are getting a lot of runoff it'll overflow no matter what you do.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:19 pm to Dooshay
Yea if we decide to use a pump we'll do something similar to that
Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:25 pm to jimbeam
Is there a water powered pump you could use?
Depending on the amount of pressure the I coming water is maybe it could run a pump or siphon some how. Your only going to be recirculating a certain percent of the total incoming water.
Say you bring in 100 gallons of water, but the filter only handles 80 gallons per minute. You only need to push 20 gallons back up to the filter. Maybe an inductor would work. Depending on elevations of all the parts. But you may have enough power to do that.
Depending on the amount of pressure the I coming water is maybe it could run a pump or siphon some how. Your only going to be recirculating a certain percent of the total incoming water.
Say you bring in 100 gallons of water, but the filter only handles 80 gallons per minute. You only need to push 20 gallons back up to the filter. Maybe an inductor would work. Depending on elevations of all the parts. But you may have enough power to do that.
Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:27 pm to Nodust
Possibility
We're focussing on the filter itself right now. I just am kind if jumping ahead and thinking of what to do with excess water
We're focussing on the filter itself right now. I just am kind if jumping ahead and thinking of what to do with excess water
Posted on 10/29/13 at 11:48 pm to jimbeam
When you install it and need a safety man to watch the messicans ... Think of me.

Posted on 10/30/13 at 8:19 am to jimbeam
we did our senior project on something similar to this, but that was 7 years ago and sadly i can't remember most of it, we were treating sewage
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:19 am to AboveGroundPool
a couple of Q:
What will the filtered water in the perforated pipe be going too? potable water source, irrigation, etc.
What level of "clean" will the filtered water need to be?
Would you prefer all water going in both pipes gets filtered eventually?
If overflow pipe water can not be filtered due to excessive rate of accumulation can it be discharged alternatively?
Do I understand your problem correctly?
You want to filter all water through the perforated pipe and filter bed which is a gravity and pressure dependent rate limiting process. You want the perforated pipe to have a continuously open discharge. In times of excessive accumulation you need a fail safe overflow pipe. You then want the flow into the overflow pipe to also be filtered as long as the process requires no power and thus want to gate the overflow pipe accumulation and divert that gated volume through the filter bed. In the event the overflow pipe's rate of accumulation exceeds the allowable gated volume causing the overflow pipe to fill completely, you then want to open the overflow gate and allow unfiltered discharge of the excess accumulation. You then want the gate to once again close when the volume in the overflow pipe is reduced to the point that the filter pipe can tolerate.
What will the filtered water in the perforated pipe be going too? potable water source, irrigation, etc.
What level of "clean" will the filtered water need to be?
Would you prefer all water going in both pipes gets filtered eventually?
If overflow pipe water can not be filtered due to excessive rate of accumulation can it be discharged alternatively?
Do I understand your problem correctly?
You want to filter all water through the perforated pipe and filter bed which is a gravity and pressure dependent rate limiting process. You want the perforated pipe to have a continuously open discharge. In times of excessive accumulation you need a fail safe overflow pipe. You then want the flow into the overflow pipe to also be filtered as long as the process requires no power and thus want to gate the overflow pipe accumulation and divert that gated volume through the filter bed. In the event the overflow pipe's rate of accumulation exceeds the allowable gated volume causing the overflow pipe to fill completely, you then want to open the overflow gate and allow unfiltered discharge of the excess accumulation. You then want the gate to once again close when the volume in the overflow pipe is reduced to the point that the filter pipe can tolerate.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:24 am to Dooshay
That's not what he said he wanted to do, though.
In your pic, water is leaving the sand box into the silt box as soon as it makes it through the sand.
quote:
**What I want to do, is ONLY allow water to leave through the bottom pipe when water is leaving through the overflow pipe. So only when water is overflowing into the vertical pipe.**
In your pic, water is leaving the sand box into the silt box as soon as it makes it through the sand.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:34 am to Meauxjeaux
Yea so the perforated pipe is to collect and discharge "clean" water. Not up to drinking standards but wont have metals and oil and grease and such.
The overflow is for high rain events. Which we will get lots of and even small rain events will produce lots of water over even small areas like a parking lot. We are trying to decide what to do with this water.
One idea is to simply say screw it and just get rid of it (however it will not have been treated). But this filter idea is going to be fitted where no current filter exists anyway so something is better than nothing.)
The idea we had that's probably better(no water goes untreated), and someone mentioned in here as well, is a retention pond before the filter. We just need to design a cheap regulator to only let 'X' amount into the filter at any time. Will increase the volume of the system indirectly and we won't have to discharge polluted water.
The overflow is for high rain events. Which we will get lots of and even small rain events will produce lots of water over even small areas like a parking lot. We are trying to decide what to do with this water.
One idea is to simply say screw it and just get rid of it (however it will not have been treated). But this filter idea is going to be fitted where no current filter exists anyway so something is better than nothing.)
The idea we had that's probably better(no water goes untreated), and someone mentioned in here as well, is a retention pond before the filter. We just need to design a cheap regulator to only let 'X' amount into the filter at any time. Will increase the volume of the system indirectly and we won't have to discharge polluted water.
This post was edited on 10/30/13 at 10:37 am
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:38 am to jimbeam
That looks hard. Like something I'd hire somebody else to do along with changing my oil and sighting in my many rifles.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:41 am to shawnlsu
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I think the bottom pipe will eventually clog itself anyway whether it works or not.
You would have to put gravel down over the bottom pipe to prevent dirt from entering.
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:45 am to jimbeam
Haven't read much of the thread but this is your answer.
This post was edited on 10/30/13 at 10:53 am
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:47 am to bayoudude
quote:Bingo.
You would have to put gravel down over the bottom pipe to prevent dirt from entering
already in the plans
i'll go ahead and pay for $20 internet dollars for your contribution now
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:21 am to jimbeam
I am not reading this whole thread, but have you started growing your weed yet?
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