re: Mass vs velocity? What are your thoughts? .45 superior to 9mm

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357 SIG


As stupid as the 40

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Best two pistol rounds ever designed.

Well, anything would be better than a .45. Fat and slow is no way to handle these situations.

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LOL at the .40 cal downvoter.

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I just downvoted because I know what you are trying to do . . .















. . . and I am mad that I didn't post it first.

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He only likes calibers that fit the 1911 platform

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I want a 1911, but not in .45.

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Right because faster, flatter, deeper penetrating projectiles aren't what this all about. 1400 fps sucks, and it's not fun to shoot at all

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Yep. I love my .357 sig conversion barrel for my XD. It gets a little expensive to shoot a lot, but very fun.

Listen to Bapple on this. Higher velocity offsets higher bullet weight. Penetration is not just those two factors though. It's also cross section of the bullet. It's like if you're trying to push a pencil vs a broom handle through a piece of leather. Lot easier with the pencil.

For pistols though, it's really negligible either way. You're going to have to keep shooting if you don't hit them exactly right. It's not like a high powered rifle where a higher velocity can get you with the heavy hydrostatic shock inches away from a good hit.

Pick a pistol you are comfortable shooting and carrying all the time and shoot it a lot.

That's the real answer to your question.

how many 9mm 1911's are there?

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It's also cross section of the bullet. It's like if you're trying to push a pencil vs a broom handle through a piece of leather. Lot easier with the pencil.

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Very true. This also shows that if a person is limited to FMJ ammo, it's best to go with the larger 45 because a bigger bullet makes a bigger hole. Of course, once you get to hollow points, the playing field is much more leveled.

could 38 sp be shot out of the 357 1911? or, just with cylinder wheel gun?

Yes, with a recoil spring change