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re: M18/P320 News
Posted on 7/23/25 at 1:30 pm to Barfunkle
Posted on 7/23/25 at 1:30 pm to Barfunkle
Have stayed away from Sig due to the P320, but can't deny the 365 looks like a perfect carry gun. I get the itch to try it out every once in a while. May have to put that in the never going to happen file. Springfield Hellcat Pro has worked well enough for me.
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Posted on 7/23/25 at 2:06 pm to Jon A thon
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Have stayed away from Sig due to the P320, but can't deny the 365 looks like a perfect carry gun. I get the itch to try it out every once in a while. May have to put that in the never going to happen file. Springfield Hellcat Pro has worked well enough for me.
I have carried a 365 for 3 years without issue and absolutely love it. I have ~20k rounds through it and a dozen USPSA matches with it. I'm actively looking for a replacement for it because of the 320 debacle. I can't help but doubt Sig entirely now.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 2:20 pm to Barfunkle
quote:I wouldn't ditch a 365, especially if you're familiar with it and shoot it well. The FCG is much different than a 320, simpler and more Glock-like.
I have carried a 365 for 3 years without issue and absolutely love it. I have ~20k rounds through it and a dozen USPSA matches with it. I'm actively looking for a replacement for it because of the 320 debacle. I can't help but doubt Sig entirely now.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 2:56 pm to TideCPA
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I wouldn't ditch a 365, especially if you're familiar with it and shoot it well. The FCG is much different than a 320, simpler and more Glock-like.
I understand this intellectually - I just can't shake this uncomfortable feeling while it's pointing at my balls now lol
Posted on 7/23/25 at 3:26 pm to Barfunkle
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The rumor (take it with a healthy dose of salt) going around is the guy detached his Safariland holster with the pistol inside, set it on a table, and the gun went off and shot him in the chest. Could be user error but at this point the reports are numerous enough to make me skeptical of the platform.
There's some user error there though. I'd never point a loaded firearm at my chest or someone else's chest.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 3:49 pm to baldona
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There's some user error there though. I'd never point a loaded firearm at my chest or someone else's chest.
Agreed, he should have placed the gun in a way that didn't have the muzzle pointing at him. What I don't think is user error is the discharge; I should have been clearer.
Late edit:
On second thought I actually don't agree with this. A holstered pistol is different than an unholstered pistol. If it weren't then appendix carry would be considered unacceptable.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:00 pm to Barfunkle
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What I don't think is user error is the discharge
I have fired a lot of rounds through 4 different P320's, now all 4 of my P320's are X models. I have never had anything close to a random discharge. I need more info on this situation.
I question anytime some claims that a gun "just went off".
Was the trigger modified or did something get in the trigger guard in the holster?
How setting pistol down on a horizontal table causes the gun to fire is difficult to comprehend
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:07 pm to civiltiger07
Same, I shot a modified M17 in USPSA for ~3 years. I thought it was user error as well. Then the FBI report came out about its issues, ICE abandoned the platform, and now the USAF is investigating it.
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PDs, USAF, & ICE dropping/investigating the platform, combined with rumors coming out of the marines & Sig applying for legal immunity is enough smoke for me to think there's fire somewhere.
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PDs, USAF, & ICE dropping/investigating the platform, combined with rumors coming out of the marines & Sig applying for legal immunity is enough smoke for me to think there's fire somewhere.
This post was edited on 7/23/25 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 7/23/25 at 4:48 pm to Barfunkle
Posted on 7/23/25 at 5:05 pm to TideCPA
Notice their statement mentions the Army, so it’s not just the Air Force investigating this latest incident.
Posted on 7/23/25 at 6:37 pm to TideCPA
Posted on 7/23/25 at 8:37 pm to Pettifogger
SIG deserves to go bankrupt
Posted on 7/24/25 at 7:53 am to Barfunkle
I never was a fan of the sig striker fired guns being basically true single action pistols. Far as I know, the 320/365/17/18 all share that action design?
I'm not sure how the manual safety functions on the 17/18 but on a P365, I'm pretty sure it's just a trigger block and doesn't do anything to prevent sear engagement.
I'm not sure how the manual safety functions on the 17/18 but on a P365, I'm pretty sure it's just a trigger block and doesn't do anything to prevent sear engagement.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:27 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I never was a fan of the sig striker fired guns being basically true single action pistols. Far as I know, the 320/365/17/18 all share that action design?
I'm not sure how the manual safety functions on the 17/18 but on a P365, I'm pretty sure it's just a trigger block and doesn't do anything to prevent sear engagement.
The 365 strikers are precocked further than a Glock (which the 17/18 & 365 have in common), but if you look at a P365 slide, it is very common of a design. As in the striker block is similar to most other designs (Glock). That same part isn’t in the P320 slide… it’s in the FCU.
But with the lack of official information regarding the 320's alleged problems, who knows if this even matters/prevents the UDs we see in the 320s. I'm inclined to think it does due to the lack of similar reported incidents with the 365, but I must say: I don't like that this is even a discussion surrounding the 365 now. It points at my balls daily.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 8:28 am
Posted on 7/24/25 at 8:56 am to Barfunkle
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As in the striker block is similar to most other designs (Glock). That same part isn’t in the P320 slide… it’s in the FCU.
Yea, I have a P365 and G17 apart on my desk right now and see the striker block is similar between the two. I don't have an M17/18 laying around to look at. That does make me feel a little better. I too have one pointed at my nuts most of the time. I'm not a glock fan because I like thumb safeties, but their design is undoubtably time-proven to be safe from failure related discharges.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 11:34 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I'm not a glock fan because I like thumb safeties,
Fair.
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their design is undoubtably time-proven to be safe from failure related discharges.
Very fair.
I don't think you're a real sig guy given that level of common sense.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 12:18 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I get why they would want to depart from the M9
I don't. Most complaints were with pistols that had been rebuilt way too many times. The only issue I've seen with M9 is the locking block cracking after 1000's of rounds and little cleaning - typical military use and abuse.
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Safariland holster
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However, when I try to remove the firearm (unloaded of course) there is considerable resistance to getting the ALS locking mechanism to unlock and therefore release the firearm.
Looking closer, I found that the ALS locking lever has an interference fit with the M18's left side safety lever. To get the ALS locking lever to fully retract and release the firearm, it has to also overcome the firearm's safety lever as well - turning the firearms Safety OFF! See pics below.
The first picture shows the ALS locking lever at rest and the Safety On. The interference between the two hopefully is obvious.
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In order to finally remove the firearm from the holster, I then have to press the ALS locking lever hard enough to "ride over" the now OFF firearm's safety lever before I can remove it.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/24/25 at 2:36 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 7/24/25 at 3:24 pm to Carson123987
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Sig gonna sig
I must have different ones, because my Sigs have never done this "Sig thing" you speak of.
But before they make a Hollywood movie about Sigs going killing people... like that movie where you died after you answered your phone... I better throw into Lake Ponchatrain.
Posted on 7/24/25 at 4:36 pm to Shexter
Man I hope they don't jack up the safriland ALS over this. Those are my favorite holsters by a very large margin.
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