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re: Louisiana’s Redfish Population Has Collapsed
Posted on 8/22/22 at 11:44 am to speckledawg
Posted on 8/22/22 at 11:44 am to speckledawg
One way is shooting and one way fishing for them.
I never said keeping the captain and crews limit was okay if fishing for them. You read that into my statement yourself.
They don't have gamefish status. Too many idiots bitched about it when the state tried and the state gave in . That is why you can still shoot them.
I never said keeping the captain and crews limit was okay if fishing for them. You read that into my statement yourself.
They don't have gamefish status. Too many idiots bitched about it when the state tried and the state gave in . That is why you can still shoot them.
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 11:52 am to voros79
1. Eliminate the Pogie boats
2. Eliminate Vietnamese boats.
3. Eliminate Vietnamese Pogie boats.
2. Eliminate Vietnamese boats.
3. Eliminate Vietnamese Pogie boats.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:03 pm to mrcoon
quote:
They don't have gamefish status. Too many idiots bitched about it when the state tried and the state gave in . That is why you can still shoot them.
They are listed as a game fish in Louisiana… but they have an exeption that allows legal take with bow and arrow.
What’s so idiotic about wanting to be able to shoot a fish with a bow? They’re easier to catch with a rod and reel so what’s wrong with a bow?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:14 pm to Theduckhunter
quote:
What’s so idiotic about wanting to be able to shoot a fish with a bow?
Well for 1, it's literally like shooting fish in a bucket. It isn't even fun beyond riding around in a boat and drinking all night. It's an idiot's sport. I've done it 3 times, chartered and private, and I won't ever go again unless I have to for work.
2, it's destructive to the species and the habitat.
I'm fine with people shooting invasive species. Redfish are game fish. It shouldn't be legal to shoot them with a bow just like it isn't legal to shoot bass with a bow. Its no different.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:25 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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ook, I'm a firm believer that man cannot compete with nature and the past 3 hurricane seasons are the biggest factor by a large margin. We cannot control that. We CAN control the year round raping and pillaging of our coastal resources. Pogy boats and fishing guides are the ones doing the pillaging. Get the damn pogy boats away from the coast, get rid of the air boats and mud boats. Quit helping mother nature bulldoze the habitat and food chain.
This.
Nobody wants to admit this and keeps coming up with other excuses. LA as sportsmans paradise is being lost due to coastal erosion. Something should be done to curtail that.
LDWF won't do anything about declining trout and flounder, Reds will be next. People won't stop fishing, the just redirect their target species.
The easiest 2 fixes to start are removing the Pogey boats off our damn coast. Then take away the guide limit. Only keep the paying customer limit. 90% of guides I've talked with support that idea 100%. Makes their job easier.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:29 pm to TopWaterTiger
quote:subsidence is equally bad
Nobody wants to admit this and keeps coming up with other excuses. LA as sportsmans paradise is being lost due to coastal erosion. Something should be done to curtail that.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:35 pm to mrcoon
quote:If the captain or crew didn't catch the fish, it's over the limit for somebody. On that show with the WLF agents a guy in cypremort point got a ticket for giving away a bull red when he had already caught/kept one.
I never said keeping the captain and crews limit was okay if fishing for them.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:38 pm to TopWaterTiger
quote:
Something should be done to curtail that.
Short of cutting every river control feature in the entire Mississippi floodplain, it's pissing in the wind. We are dumping all the silt off the shelf.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 1:04 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Blow the damn levees, no one should be permanently living south of BC anyway. NEWO is a wasteland anyway, let it go back to nature.
Yea I know, not realistic but neither is the majority if shite the government or politicians come up with either.
Yea I know, not realistic but neither is the majority if shite the government or politicians come up with either.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/22/22 at 1:56 pm to GREENHEAD22
Honestly though, this is one of the best things we could do.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 1:59 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:
Blow the damn levees,
you have to let nature rebuild. Can you imagine 50 years of silt reinforcement coming back down there?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 2:06 pm to Chad504boy
Naysayers point to, oh the sediment load is so much less now. Well look at the land that has been built by the breaks in the levee that currently exists.
Them commercial boys better hope I never become dictator.
Them commercial boys better hope I never become dictator.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/22/22 at 2:44 pm to Theduckhunter
IMO bowfishing hurts duck hunting more so in that it displaces them to the point that they flee the area completely. No refuge, even in darkness. It's about harassment. To a lesser degree there is a certain amount of collateral damage to SAV. This debate is just another negative impact on an admittedly already stressed resource. Basically duck hunting sucks, and has for the past several years in SELA; and the harassment by bowfishing vessels does not improve matters.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 3:12 pm to skullraker
Honestly, I don’t think it has as big of an impact as you think. But if we had a ton of boats bowfishing our lease during the season, I wouldn’t be super keen on that, so I can see where you’re coming from. The fact of the matter is that the boats aren’t out in the same numbers as summer time when it’s 40 degrees outside with weekly fronts stirring the water up.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 4:23 pm to skullraker
quote:
IMO bowfishing hurts duck hunting more so in that it displaces them to the point that they flee the area completely. No refuge, even in darkness. It's about harassment. To a lesser degree there is a certain amount of collateral damage to SAV. This debate is just another negative impact on an admittedly already stressed resource. Basically duck hunting sucks, and has for the past several years in SELA; and the harassment by bowfishing vessels does not improve matters.
100% agree for SE LA. Can't speak for other areas
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 8/22/22 at 6:52 pm to JonO
Decibel levels between airboats and gator tails modified to 55hp with dual exhaust are pretty damn close. Neither help the ducks, that’s why they raft up offshore.
But on subject, we are seeing big schools further north in our area not seen since Gustav time frame.
But on subject, we are seeing big schools further north in our area not seen since Gustav time frame.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:01 pm to Capt ST
So where we talking? Lake Boudreaux?
They must be further north than 4point because we didn't find much south of there.
They must be further north than 4point because we didn't find much south of there.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:09 pm to GREENHEAD22
They had plenty near the Robinson canal area during the winter time. Haven’t really looked for them since it warmed up though.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:16 pm to Capt ST
quote:
Decibel levels between airboats and gator tails modified to 55hp with dual exhaust are pretty damn close.
I was about to say, the sheer noise of an airboat might impact ducks or even fish. I don’t know. All I know is the first time I encountered an airboat behind port sulphur circa 1995, I could not believe just how loud they were. Could hear them across the marsh for miles. Way louder than any outboard motor.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 8:36 am
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:19 am to Theduckhunter
I am speaking about an immediate impact on my Duck lease in Delacroix. I know factually that bowfishing was taking place literally in my duck ponds and needless to say, we rarely have any sitting ducks on my lease anymore when we come in in the morning to hunt.
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