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re: Is the Blackjack 256 still the top Bay Boat on the Market
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:55 pm to CalcasieuTiger
Posted on 11/4/24 at 4:55 pm to CalcasieuTiger
I have a 2016 256 that I’m probably going to sell in the next few months. And it’s a really tough decision.
I moved to the river and have slowly come to the realization that a party barge is better for my life now. I bought the party barge last weekend and I think I’m gonna need therapy to divorce my 256.
All that said, just to say that I highly recommend the 256 bay. It seems long on the trailer, but I love it in the water, and it does trailer good. I consider it a fishing boat. Ive never been on a PF, but they sure look nice, a little more luxury than the BJ. I’d think the BJ is a little easier to clean up after a day of fish killin.
Just for reference concerning speed, mine has a Yam300, and it hits 51 with a ttop. That’s about as fast as my brain works on the water anyway.
If you have any questions on the 256, I’d be glad to answer as honestly as possible.
Good luck on your decision, OP. It’s the most fun shopping that I know of.
I moved to the river and have slowly come to the realization that a party barge is better for my life now. I bought the party barge last weekend and I think I’m gonna need therapy to divorce my 256.
All that said, just to say that I highly recommend the 256 bay. It seems long on the trailer, but I love it in the water, and it does trailer good. I consider it a fishing boat. Ive never been on a PF, but they sure look nice, a little more luxury than the BJ. I’d think the BJ is a little easier to clean up after a day of fish killin.
Just for reference concerning speed, mine has a Yam300, and it hits 51 with a ttop. That’s about as fast as my brain works on the water anyway.
If you have any questions on the 256, I’d be glad to answer as honestly as possible.
Good luck on your decision, OP. It’s the most fun shopping that I know of.
This post was edited on 11/4/24 at 6:42 pm
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Posted on 11/4/24 at 6:07 pm to TopWaterTiger
My 23v is going to need to last 30 more years...
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:33 am to TopWaterTiger
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Its absolutely retarded what new boats and new trucks cost these days!
While I don’t disagree, most of the cost is honestly crap we didn’t have 20 years ago.
You go and buy a 22 ft bay boat with a 150hp, 7inch screen, and that’s all and it’s not terrible price wise. But that’s so damn boring now, lol
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:46 am to baldona
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While I don’t disagree, most of the cost is honestly crap we didn’t have 20 years ago. You go and buy a 22 ft bay boat with a 150hp, 7inch screen, and that’s all and it’s not terrible price wise. But that’s so damn boring now, lol
True words.
It is very easy to spend an additional 15k or more to rig out your boat
Posted on 11/5/24 at 6:49 am to baldona
I wouldn't put Blackjack in the top ten.
Top tier bay/hybrid boats in no order:
Sheaffer Boats
Young Boats, Inc.
Marauder Marine Boat works
Dorado Custom Boats
Costa Custom Boats
Calcutta Marine
Zcb Boats
Top tier bay/hybrid boats in no order:
Sheaffer Boats
Young Boats, Inc.
Marauder Marine Boat works
Dorado Custom Boats
Costa Custom Boats
Calcutta Marine
Zcb Boats
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 7:03 am
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:08 am to rodnreel
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wouldn't put Blackjack in the top ten
OP did state he was looking for something in the BJ 256 price range. I would think ZCB and Costa are going to be decently higher. For a 26ft bayboat I dont think you can go wrong between the Blackjack and the Pathfinder.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:34 am to Saskwatch
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OP did state he was looking for something in the BJ 256 price range. I would think ZCB and Costa are going to be decently higher. For a 26ft bayboat I dont think you can go wrong between the Blackjack and the Pathfinder.
Agree 100%. I missed the part about similar price range.
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 7:35 am
Posted on 11/5/24 at 7:59 am to CalcasieuTiger
I'd go with a ZCB Freemason.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:47 am to rodnreel
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rodnreel
I fished on a Costa. Absolutely incredible. Felt like I was on a space ship. If I had the cheese…..
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:42 pm to LEASTBAY
My Haynie does over 70 with a 300. I’ll take the Haynie in any conditions over the black jack
Haynie 24 H.O. Or 25 magnum all day
Haynie 24 H.O. Or 25 magnum all day
This post was edited on 11/5/24 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 11/5/24 at 8:56 pm to Ipissexcellence
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I’ll take the Haynie in any conditions over the black jack
Whats the deadrise at the stern on those? Seems I remember them being pretty flat with low sides. Not really the same kind of boat from what I remembwr?
Posted on 11/5/24 at 9:38 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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go with a ZCB Freemason.
Those are built locally here and fine as frog hair, but $$$.
Posted on 11/5/24 at 10:10 pm to Ipissexcellence
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My Haynie does over 70 with a 300. I’ll take the Haynie in any conditions over the black jack
Haynie 24 H.O. Or 25 magnum all day
Talk about owner bias. This is the kind of bullshite responses you get in these threads. Always someone that thinks their own boat is the best no matter what. It’s like saying a crescent wrench is better than screw driver.
Haynie has a good reputation but this is an apples to oranges comparison to a Black Jack. Two completely different styles of bay boats. There is a reason Blackjacks outnumber Haynie in south Louisiana by at least 20-1 if not more. In Texas I’m sure there are way more Haynies than Blackjacks. Just like there a lot of Texas style skinny water Cat boats that you won’t see very often in South Louisiana.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:05 am to CalcasieuTiger
I’ve got a 256 and love it. Not many better riding boats in that category. Pathfinder also makes a fine rig.
It’s hard to put it in the same category as some of the other mentions. American, Costa etc.
It’s hard to put it in the same category as some of the other mentions. American, Costa etc.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 6:37 am to Ipissexcellence
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I’ll take the Haynie in any conditions over the black jack
LOL
Posted on 11/6/24 at 8:53 am to CalcasieuTiger
There is one boat many don't know much about and it fits what you are asking, the 26 HCO Crevalle.
I've fished out of one a number of times over the last 2 years and have been impressed with ride quality, shallow water ability, and fit and finish.
26 HCO
Take a look
I've fished out of one a number of times over the last 2 years and have been impressed with ride quality, shallow water ability, and fit and finish.
26 HCO
Take a look
Posted on 11/6/24 at 9:49 am to Mister Bigfish
I’ve been in both boats from Venice to big lake and the Haynie consistently out performs the BJ. The only place the BJ may have an advantage is if you plan on spending alot of time further in the gulf. The Haynies handle better in small bayous, shallow water and are faster. Normal inshore chop 2-3’ and you can run the Haynei wide open. The BJ looks good but fishing tournaments the Haynie is the best boat for me.
This post was edited on 11/6/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:10 am to Ipissexcellence
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Normal inshore chop 2-3’ and you can run the Haynei wide open
I don't know that you could run a 35 contender wide open in a 3 foot chop and stay inside the boat. You people are nuts.
In my 24' 4,000 pound boat with a 18* bottom, I can barely stay on plane in choppy 2's if I want to stay dry-ish. You are not hauling arse across a 3' or even 2' chop in anything haynie ever made without stopping at the chiropractor and fiberglass shop on the way home.
It might be faster in a bay chop than a blackjack, just because it's a faster boat, but yall need to calibrate your wave-o-meters.
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:27 am to Ipissexcellence
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Normal inshore chop
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2-3’
Posted on 11/6/24 at 10:31 am to Ipissexcellence
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I’ve been in both boats from Venice to big lake and the Haynie consistently out performs the BJ. The only place the BJ may have an advantage is if you plan on spending alot of time further in the gulf. The Haynies handle better in small bayous, shallow water and are faster. Normal inshore chop 2-3’ and you can run the Haynei wide open. The BJ looks good but fishing tournaments the Haynie is the best boat for me.
Ok first off you don’t know how the op intends to use the boat outside of family fishing with 4-5 people.
Of these 2 boats the BJ is over 1300 pounds heavier, has higher freeboard and higher raised front deck, and larger fuel capacity. Additionally the BJ has a gelcoat finished interior with more compartments. The BJ drafts significantly more at 16-18 inches of water as opposed to 10 with the Haynie.
The Haynie has a more open and simplistic interior. Lighter without the top cap. Lower and closer to the water.
Completely different rigs. Not everyone fishes interior marsh as their primary area. The difference between bay chop and open gulf swells/seas is vast and really isn’t a comparison. There is no way that light arse Haynie is going to run anywhere close to the same as BJ or any other similar heavier style boat that has more freeboard.
A lot of people that run BJ’s like to fish the beaches and then run offshore for snapper which is where the boat will excel and beat the Haynie quite easily. Yeah the Haynie probably a better choice for redfish tournaments but the op didn’t state that as an intended purpose.
Aside from performance many people are attracted to the finished interior style of boat as opposed to the Haynie. I am not knocking either as they both have their pros and cons.
Op good luck with your search.
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