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re: interesting discussion about snake ID
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:19 pm to AlxTgr
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:19 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
what's this then?
3 drunks and a diamondback watersnake, at the mouth of the Searcy Oxbow on the Red River lake system. Note the consistency of the pattern. nothing like the questioned picture, which has more mottled, irregular bands.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:20 pm to Crawdaddy
quote:Wow
looks stocky like a cotton mouth. The body goes from fat to just a small tail, no tapering to a skinny tail.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:22 pm to AlxTgr
I see the rest of the tail now. I missed it. It does have a long skinny tail.
Not sure
I would still treat it like a cotton mouth.
Not sure
I would still treat it like a cotton mouth.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:36 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I have never seen a copperhead purposely swim in water like that
I have seen them swimming many times.
ETA: but i am not sure if they were swimming on purpose or accidentally fell in the canal
This post was edited on 5/10/11 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:39 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:
I have seen them swimming many times.
I'm not saying they wouldn't to cross a bayou or something, but I always encounter copperheads on dry gravel roads or on forest floors blending in with fallen leaves. I wouldn't say a copperhead is a "water" snake.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:43 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I'm not saying they wouldn't to cross a bayou or something, but I always encounter copperheads on dry gravel roads or on forest floors blending in with fallen leaves. I wouldn't say a copperhead is a "water" snake.
No I wasn't saying that either. We use to catch diamondbacks and bandits(banded) all the time and occasionally would see a copperhead swimming. One thing I am certain of is if you are close and see a copperhead or cottonmouth you will know that they are venomous b/c they just look evil.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 2:56 pm to SCUBABlake
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The fact remains that it's a GDCK, and it could kill every single one of us just by looking at us.
Take that shite to the OT.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:16 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I was just reading a website that said copperheads can get to 36 inches, bullshite, I would say the avg. copperhead is 16 inches long.
That may be the average of what you've seen, but I've seen one that was more like 40 inches. Scariest fricking snake ever. HUGE copperhead.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:23 pm to meauxjeaux2
Def not a water Moccasin
Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:25 pm to yellowfin
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I'd grab that snake with my bare hand I'm so sure it's a water snake
I'd grab that snake with my bare hand anyway, snakes are defenseless when eating.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:28 pm to faxis
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Scariest fricking snake ever. HUGE copperhead.
I would say a 10-12ft black mamba would be scarier. Thankfully we don't have them here
Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:38 pm to faxis
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That may be the average of what you've seen, but I've seen one that was more like 40 inches. Scariest fricking snake ever. HUGE copperhead.
Then you'll be glad you've never seen an 8' Eastern Diamondback Rattler.....

Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:40 pm to lsu_tiger_az
quote:We've got the skin from a 6' rattler hanging on the wall at the camp
Then you'll be glad you've never seen an 8' Eastern Diamondback Rattler
Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:45 pm to Boats n Hose
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We've got the skin from a 6' rattler hanging on the wall at the camp![]()
The one we ran into was a pregnant female....
she was almost as big as a volleyball

Posted on 5/10/11 at 3:56 pm to lsu_tiger_az
I'd probably would have shite my pants 
Posted on 5/10/11 at 4:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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Definitely a cottonmouth. When younger, they have they bands like that. as they age, they tend to just turn black.[/quote
[quote]I believe you are correct.
Could be. When young and small they look like that but based on the size of the bream the nasty bastard is ingesting... I don't know. Definitely not a Broad Banded Water Snake and Copperheads don't really like water.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 4:39 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
What's this then?
That is a Canebrake.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 4:45 pm to windriver
Mamba I'll grant you, but nothing scares me more in this state than copperheads because every time I find one it's right as I'm about to step on it and I had a few instances of being caught in the middle of a mess of them while bow hunting in October so I didn't have a gun. Would spot one on a creek wall I was slipping down then I'd see another, and another, and another, and another.... All around me and I still had to get out of there without getting bit.
Something about copperheads in early October. They are highly agitated and trying to get some pussy so they gang up like that. And they're practically invisible.
frick a bunch of copperheads.
Something about copperheads in early October. They are highly agitated and trying to get some pussy so they gang up like that. And they're practically invisible.
frick a bunch of copperheads.
Posted on 5/10/11 at 5:29 pm to windriver
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That is a Canebrake.
Canebrake water snake?
Posted on 5/10/11 at 6:34 pm to AlxTgr
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Canebrake water snake?
You know it is. Very dangerous & stealthy.
Second only to the GDCK & inland Taipan.
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