re: I am heartbroken and angry this morning.

Shoot me your email address. deaconjonesob@gmail.com
I've already derailed this thread enough.

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This is not the place to do so, but yeah I do disagree. He may be right about the OP's family not acting right, but to generalize all Christians the way he does is pitiful....and he has no idea what Christianity is. Maybe religion...but not Christianity.

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Which is why debating is futile. I'm agnostic, I've found people who use the term Atheists are militant and you'll never be able to have a discussion with them. It's a personal crusade.

There's not really much else to say in the thread. People said it sucked. People tried to comfort him by giving examples of their lives. People even offered legal advice. It got repetitive at the beginning of page 3.

I don't feel like emailing back and forth. If you're tired of the conversation, then that's cool with me. I certainly can't make someone have a conversation with me. I posted in a thread whose OP is a preacher, and I'm guessing you're a deacon. Seems fitting to ask my questions here. If you don't want to, that's your prerogative, but the OP doesn't own this particular thread. It's not "his" thread. It's an internet forum for discussion.


I will never think I'm better than someone else based on beliefs. I asked a question, and if you can't answer it, you can't answer it. I'm not mad or trying to bait you into a trap. Contrary to popular belief, I don't like making people feel bad or inferior

Religion and politics are two things I believe are best left out of conversation.

I guess Roger pegged you then. You don't want real answers which I was willing to email you. You just want to show your arse publicly here and shite all over Christianity and assume a whole bunch about my life that you don't know. It appears to me that you are just as bad as the people you are currently condemning. It's so easy to believe in nothing and shite all over everything else.

BTW, I'm not a deacon...just another assumption on your end.

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I mean seriously man. I asked one question. Didn't need to get drug out this long.

I will admit you are right, and I hate it. It something I am personally trying to teach against. The church in the US as a whole is so, so judgmental. Especially in conservative churches. Specifically conservative holiness. I am combatting it for all I am worth. It really shows up in the volatility within the church's reaction to gay marriage.


On my original OP. My dad and I went and spoke with my grandparents. My grandmother shut down and didn't want to discuss. Only 2 things she said was "Well I guess everyone is just mad at us" and "There is always pretty land to buy". Didn't seem to understand its not the land, but the memories. It's about physically having something that represents them after they are gone.

However my grandfather was fully cognizant today and discussed why he thought it was the best decision. Judging by his answers he was a lot more involved in the process than I thought. Which makes me worlds more comfortable. Everything he said was well reasoned and thought out. He understood why we feel the way we do and addressed everything but why we weren't told until now. Neither one would talk to us on that. Certain things still feel shady, but it is too late.

To those who thought I was whiny, entitled, or un-Christian in my OP. It wasn't about the money or the land. It simply hurt to think that they don't love us enough to leave it to us. I grew up idolizing my Pop. He is an incredible man. Son of a sharecropper who worked his way up to VP in the world's second largest conglomerate, then left and started his own highly successful business. He was always wise, kind, and incredibly intelligent. We have been slowly losing him for awhile, so to lose something with the attachment I felt to him there, on such short notice, hurts like hell. To think he thinks so little of us with the way I have always revered him....it would be disastrous for my psyche. It's not about the money or land, it's about trust, love, and legacy.

Talking to him made a huge difference, I am a lot more comfortable than earlier. Sorry for venting. Thanks for engaging on the topic though guys.

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I will admit you are right, and I hate it. It something I am personally trying to teach against. The church in the US as a whole is so, so judgmental. Especially in conservative churches. Specifically conservative holiness. I am combatting it for all I am worth. It really shows up in the volatility within the church's reaction to gay marriage.

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So does it have more to do with the attitude inside the individual churches, or the individuals themselves? Trying to find a trend, but I am not involved enough with religion to do so

Eta: Is tolerance a topic that is touched on often?

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grandparents have co-owned 1500 acres

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Now it is being ripped away.

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ripped away? it was never yours to begin with. it sucks but it is not like it was yours.

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ripped away? it was never yours to begin with. it sucks but it is not like it was yours.

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Never had to deal with something like this I see.