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HItch Treestand...single rope
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:39 pm
I know I am antiquated in my thinking, but does this just look like a deathtrap to anyone else, a single rope tied off to a marine cleat. I am not sure of my objection other than it just looks like a good way to fall.
WHat are the boards thoughts on this newish product. I am recently getting back into some bow hunting and need a couple more lock ons and saw these are around when searching for light, quiet, lock ons
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:01 pm to tigerfoot
I personally wouldn’t get in a stand held by a rope. Saddle hunting is a big thing now a days and they are reliant on a rope setup similar to what climbers use I’d imagine.
My millenniums are secured by a chain and I ratchet strap the bottom of the stand to keep it from moving when getting in/out. Take a look at the milleniums.
My millenniums are secured by a chain and I ratchet strap the bottom of the stand to keep it from moving when getting in/out. Take a look at the milleniums.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:21 pm to pdubya76
Yeah, that is what I have, but was just surfing around. This was listed as some new and exciting product, but it scares the crap outta me.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:25 pm to tigerfoot
As long as the working load of the rope is adequate, I see no problem with it. I use rope on some of my lock ons and all my steps. I do have an extra safety rope tied off as a back up, but this is a normal set up these days. I am also always tied off to the tree so multiple back ups in case the main rope happened to fail.
Rope/Strap at top and bottom is more stable at initial set up. However, once you load the stand and "set" it, its rock solid with just a rope/strap at the top. First time in a lock on, I kneel on the seat facing the tree and use a foot to lift the front of the platform. That allows the top to bite into the tree and then pushing the front of the platform back down locks the bottom to the tree.
Rope/Strap at top and bottom is more stable at initial set up. However, once you load the stand and "set" it, its rock solid with just a rope/strap at the top. First time in a lock on, I kneel on the seat facing the tree and use a foot to lift the front of the platform. That allows the top to bite into the tree and then pushing the front of the platform back down locks the bottom to the tree.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:26 pm to tigerfoot
I saddle hunt, both one stick and occasionally with 20” sticks. Everything I use is rope, specifically “amsteel” it is as strong as cable, and in 3 years have never had a failure. It’s lighter and quieter than chain or ratchet straps
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:48 pm to tigerfoot
Put a ratchet strap on it.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:53 pm to tigerfoot
Awe hell naw. I get the Millenniums that have the strap with the bracket. So you don't have to hold the weight of the stand when you are wrapping the strap around the tree. Just slide the stand in the bracket afterwards. Then I go with at least 1 more another ratchet strap around the middle/bottom.
But I'm leaving lock-ons up for extended periods of time. Not toting in and out.
But I'm leaving lock-ons up for extended periods of time. Not toting in and out.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:56 pm to pdubya76
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Saddle hunting is a big thing now a days and they are reliant on a rope setup similar to what climbers use I’d imagine.
I hunt out of a saddle. I use a lineman’s rope to climb up the sticks, then the tether rope to clip to my bridge and saddle. My platform uses a ratchet strap to attach to the tree.
I mean, I use 11mm ropes and rope man ascenders on them. 5000# breaking strength. I’m never not attached to the tree with at least one rope. I inspect my ropes before each season and each time I use them to make sure they aren’t damaged. This isn’t cheap equipment so I feel pretty good about it. A lot less to break or go wrong than a climber.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:57 pm to tigerfoot
I wouldn't have a problem trusting the rope. I use Amsteel on mine and it's great.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:14 pm to Loup
How do you know that tree rat hasnt chewed on that rope, while your getting into it at 5 am. Only ratchet straps or chains for me.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:16 pm to Loup
I only have amsteel on all my sticks and my platforms/lock ons. I actually hate getting in stands I didn’t hang now, I don’t care if it has chains and straps. If you have two buttons and you don’t attach the bottom, it’s really only a problem for side pressure, it’s a risk of it kicking out side to side. If I’m just gonna sit in it facing forward, I just do the top one.
Edit: my smallest lock is a XOP retrograde but if i wasn’t sitting in a saddle, I’d probably get a Cold War or a lwcg .75 over a retrograde or .5.
Edit: my smallest lock is a XOP retrograde but if i wasn’t sitting in a saddle, I’d probably get a Cold War or a lwcg .75 over a retrograde or .5.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:19 pm to tigerfoot
Mounted a boat cleat on a lone wolf looks like. I don’t see any real gains there. Maybe I’m missing something ?
Posted on 1/30/24 at 6:07 pm to bigbuckdj
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: my smallest lock is a XOP retrograde but if i wasn’t sitting in a saddle, I’d probably get a Cold War or a lwcg .75 over a retrograde or .5.
I was thinking of buying the retrograde. Just too small?
Posted on 1/30/24 at 6:08 pm to boudinman
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How do you know that tree rat hasnt chewed on that rope, while your getting into it at 5 am. Only ratchet straps or chains for me
I don't leave them in the woods and I inspect my ropes regularly. I'm also 100% tied off from when my foot leaves the ground.
Eta: rats and squirrels will also chew a strap.
This post was edited on 1/30/24 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:04 pm to tigerfoot
Good rope is good stuff. I trust a good rope 100%.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 7:10 pm to Loup
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I was thinking of buying the retrograde. Just too small?
Depends on how long you want to sit and if you’ll have a saddle. I use mine for long sits. I sit mostly in my saddle and every so often sit in the seat to take the weight off my hips. It works for that but I think if I had to sit for 6 hours or so without the saddle it wouldn’t work for me. But lots of folks hunt in a .5 without a saddle so it’s probably mostly personal preference.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 7:01 am to tigerfoot
Depends on how big a boy you are. Used to hunt like this often. The rope is so much quieter than a chain when setting up.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:16 am to geauxbrown
quote:Gonna need a nice size rope I am.
Depends on how big a boy you are.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:51 am to tigerfoot
I wouldn’t risk walking beneath that piece of shite.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 8:53 am to tigerfoot
If you toe hook correctly, it shouldn't move
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