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Hey, Wildlife and Fisheries
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:36 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:36 am
Guess what? Ever since the river went down and the storms brought in some saltier water, the trout are thick. Maybe, the people at Wildlife and Fisheries will admit that they were wrong.The opening of the spillway was what was killing trout fishing, nothing else.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:38 am to bearhc
I’ve said this for years. Salt water estuaries and marshes are key to successful saltwater game fish and bait/shrimp
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:49 am to bearhc
Wait the spillways are killing the trout? What about all the passes that occur off the river? Are they killing the trout too?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:10 am to Stexas
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Salt water estuaries and marshes are key to successful saltwater game fish and bait/shrimp
Except not all estuaries aren't entirely composed of saltwater. Take the Cameron-Creole for instance.
Salinity management is key, but salinity management does not equate to saltwater. Most of the bait species need some level of freshwater introduction into the system.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:11 am to bearhc
So they shouldn’t ever open the spillway because some trout may die?
We have been getting “100 year floods” every year lately. Perhaps that has something to do with opening the gates?
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Ever since the river went down
We have been getting “100 year floods” every year lately. Perhaps that has something to do with opening the gates?
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 9:15 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:24 am to Cowboyfan89
Grand and T-Boys are blown out, trout catching will be off the chain for several years.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 12:01 pm to Capt ST
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Wait the spillways are killing the trout? What about all the passes that occur off the river? Are they killing the trout too?
I don’t think he meant it in that vein, but the freshwater definitely has been displacing the trout. I think this year was a good indication of what a typical year should look like. Need to remember as well that the freeze a few yrs ago likely killed thousands of fish too.
The best thing that can be done to help is to help rebuild the marshes really.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 4:53 pm to TJG210
Wait I thought saltwater intrusion and the resulting loss of estuaries which leads to a decline in habitat for juvenile fish was the reason for the trout population decline?
Now it’s cause we don’t have enough salt water?
Now it’s cause we don’t have enough salt water?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 5:37 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Wait I thought saltwater intrusion and the resulting loss of estuaries which leads to a decline in habitat for juvenile fish was the reason for the trout population decline?
Now it’s cause we don’t have enough salt water?
The areas that traditionally have been brackish water have been 100% fresh water for quite a few years. WLF is looking for trout in areas that have transitioned from salt water to freshwater and documenting it like nothing has changed and the trout have declined. The trout just moved.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 5:52 pm to bearhc
Are you a wildlife biologist?
Didn't think so. STFU
Didn't think so. STFU
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:14 pm to bearhc
There are lots of factors, but the endless meat haul is something we can control. This state has the most greedy sportsman on the planet.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 6:16 pm to mrcoon
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This state has the most greedy sportsman on the planet
Gotta fill the freezer! Gotta stunt on the baws with 100 12" trout!
Posted on 9/20/20 at 7:03 pm to Capt ST
Wait the spillways are killing the trout? What about all the passes that occur off the river? Are they killing the trout too?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:02 pm to ecb
OP never said killing trout. He said killing trout fishing. The point he was trying to make was that the sampling in the last few years showed low trout numbers due to the displacement of the trout. The sampling coincided with the high river levels for the last few years. That high water has kept more freshwater in areas that have trout during normal river level years. It is a theory that has some basis. Is it the only reason? Most would agree it isn't but it hasn't helped.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:36 pm to mrcoon
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This state has the most greedy sportsman on the planet.
Based on your personal belief? If actual science is used to determine we need to change, then fine, otherwise changing for the sake of change is foolish. You don’t agree with keeping 25 trout, easy, don’t do it. Let other people make their own decisions, when I go fishing I eat everything I catch fresh and give away the rest (mostly to people who don’t fish).
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:57 pm to LSUengr
These high river levels are the new normal.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:03 am to TJG210
I have been alive on earth long enough to know that people in this state over exploit wildlife. I don't need a peer reviewed study to conclude that. Just because the limit is something doesn't mean it is right to take that limit plus many times over until you have to move to a new area to start the cycle over. That goes for fish and game. More people need to drop the pride and quit lying to themselves.
Also, the trout data is out there, and if you had actually read the information put out by the state you would understand why they want to change the limits. It is not rocket science and will benefit the fishery. People will be able to survive "only" keeping 15 trout just like they lived through "only" five redfish.
I am personally shocked the state is having the balls to do something to help the trout. That is not how they normally operate because they are scared to death to lose a penny in licence sales hence the ridiculous bag limits and long seasons we have for so many species.
Also, the trout data is out there, and if you had actually read the information put out by the state you would understand why they want to change the limits. It is not rocket science and will benefit the fishery. People will be able to survive "only" keeping 15 trout just like they lived through "only" five redfish.
I am personally shocked the state is having the balls to do something to help the trout. That is not how they normally operate because they are scared to death to lose a penny in licence sales hence the ridiculous bag limits and long seasons we have for so many species.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:51 am to mrcoon
I kinda agree with this. There are some that are catching to many. I assume it's a combination of fresh water and over harvest. I hear of people selling trout all of the time. I just can't figure out what the purpose is. They surely cannot be making a profit. I'm sure they can't bring themselves to catch and release and have nothing else to do with the meat.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 10:27 am to Cowboyfan89
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Except not all estuaries aren't entirely composed of saltwater.
I've never heard of ANY estuaries entirely composed of salt water. By definition they have lower salinity levels than ocean, but more than the fresh water marshes that DU wants us to believe we need. Your point is a good one, it just doesn't make any sense.
Cameron-Creole is a perfect example, man-made salt water barriers have reduced salinity levels
Posted on 9/21/20 at 12:11 pm to mrcoon
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This state has the most greedy sportsman on the planet.
The guides I've fished with at Lake Fork always had something nice to say about the meathunters from Louisiana when we saw a LA boat.
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