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re: GOA v NFA Lawsuit Thread: GOA has submitted their lawsuit in the 5th District Court of TX

Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:30 pm to
Silencer central worked behind the scenes to frick us.

Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:23 pm to
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don't fret, this doesn't affect the HPA being passed by the House.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:55 pm to
which one are you guys?


Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 11:27 pm to
Here’s some good info on the NFA.

A current Democrat lawmaker basically admits that the tax was a deterrent from possession. That’s unconstitutional.

The AG from ‘34 said the exact same thing.



This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by CatSquirrel
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:01 pm to
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Silencers aren't firearms.


“Silencers” aren’t silent.

They’re really called “Suppressors”.

That’s another media twist to make them seem deadly.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:42 pm to
Updated previous post. Forgot to include the YouTube link.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Silencer central worked behind the scenes to frick us.


I got a shirt when I bought my suppressor from them. Will use it as a rag now.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:15 pm to
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Silencers” aren’t silent. They’re really called “Suppressors”.


I agree, but the NFA defines “silencers”:
quote:

(25) The terms "firearm silencer" and "firearm muffler" mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

A current Democrat lawmaker basically admits that the tax was a deterrent from possession. That’s unconstitutional.


Yeah, there’s no other logical reason for restricting suppressors. Dems don’t want guns to be more comfortable to shoot bc that encourages people to shoot. What’s surprising is that the tax was kept at $200 and not $20,000.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/25/25 at 8:28 pm to
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What’s surprising is that the tax was kept at $200 and not $20,000


Yea, this is the most amazing thing. The anti gun folk screwed the pooch not adjusting this for inflation.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:29 pm to
Has there been any updates?

I'm curious, if they pull suppressors from the NFA, what does that mean for the DIY crowd? I mean, I hear talk that you'd have to do a background check like for a firearm, but you're allowed to make your own firearm too... it's just not that easy (outside of a couple 80% concepts).
Suppressors on the other hand shouldn't be that tough. You may not get the best quality, but you should be able to get something reasonably functional.

Particularly for the oil filter adapter; what I am understanding is that they tend to suppress for maybe 10 or so shots. But if you're able to buy/make a threaded adapter, and not go through any hassle with swapping a new filter on, then that suddenly becomes very affordable for something like hunting. It may not be "best", but if it drops decibels a bit then it worked.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 1:35 pm to
the Senate, i believe, will be working on the entirety of the bill this week.

i wouldn't expect anything to be removed from the bill. only added to. unless the supporting senators can't persuade the senate manager that this is a budgetary item and not a policy item (see the Byrd rule), then the suppressors would be removed from the bill.


we're hoping it stays, and they can get the SHORT Act included.
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:51 pm to
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i wouldn't expect anything to be removed from the bill. only added to. unless the supporting senators can't persuade the senate manager that this is a budgetary item and not a policy item (see the Byrd rule), then the suppressors would be removed from the bill.


we're hoping it stays, and they can get the SHORT Act included.
I'm a bit leery of this...

it would have to go back to the House if the Senate adds something, correct? It passed the House by 1 vote, without the SBR bit included, and some Dems made a scene about the suppressors being in it.

I would say everything in the NFA could meet the Byrd rule, but most of that would incite the anti-gunners. There's really no easy justification for SBRs, etc, but with suppressors you can cite health (hearing) benefits. That's not MY position, but you have to get it through Congress.

I'm worried if they add something else, it could hang up, and they'd end up pulling all the NFA stuff out as a result.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/5/25 at 8:42 pm to
They both pass the Byrd rule, they are both taxes, so they are revenues. A delusional frickall would think otherwise.

The HPA and Short Act are the least important things republicans care about this bill. Democrats can scream all they want, it literally does not matter.

Republicans are fighting about deficit spending and debt ceilings. None of them are talking about the firearm aspects because the absurd spending is their concern. That leaves this unique opportunity for us to get these bills through.

I don’t want to get my hopes up. They’ve screwed up in the past. I’m extremely torn between the stupendously outrageous spending and getting these bills passed.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23544 posts
Posted on 6/5/25 at 9:30 pm to
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They both pass the Byrd rule, they are both taxes, so they are revenues. A delusional frickall would think otherwise.
I know, and I agree with you... but Congress is full of delusional frickalls. We both know this.
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I don’t want to get my hopes up. They’ve screwed up in the past. I’m extremely torn between the stupendously outrageous spending and getting these bills passed.
I'm in favor of getting this passed, because budgets can get adjusted every year. Pulling something, ANYTHING, out of the NFA is huge. I'd LOVE for the SBR to get passed too. But I can use a pistol with a brace, and it's 98% there... I can't do anything to match up with the suppressor, all I can do is wear hearing protection.

I'm not doing the registry. I didn't do it for the free SBR deal when it was offered, I'm not doing a registry. That's my concern more than the tax cost.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40154 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:13 pm to
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