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Gun Recommendation
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:38 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:38 am
So the wife is freaked about protests, violence and wants protection. Any recommendations on a female-friendly pistol?
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 6:42 am to shrevetigertom
Smith & Wesson Shield EZ 9mm. EZ means it's easier to both lock and load.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 7:07 am to RoyalWe
Not that I wouldn't pass, but are background checks required for a shotgun purchase?
Posted on 6/6/20 at 7:11 am to shrevetigertom
Go to your local shooting range and let her shoot several different pistols. Most indoor ranges have pistols you can rent for test shooting. Some women prefer a revolver like the S&W model 637 airweight or model 642 Ladysmith. Others prefer a semi-automatic such as the Glock 42/43, Kahr CW9, S&W M&P Shield, or Ruger LCP. If your wife has never shot a pistol before, I highly recommend that she participate in a shooting course offered for women
Posted on 6/6/20 at 7:20 am to shrevetigertom
My wife carries a Glock 43. Resist the urge to buy a small micro gun. My wife wanted A small gun just because logic would tell her that they would be easier to shoot and not “ kick” as bad.
After shooting for several years now her favorite to shoot is a full size Glock 17.
After shooting for several years now her favorite to shoot is a full size Glock 17.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 7:21 am to BHS78
Yes, it’s the same background check required whether you’re buying a single shot .22 or an AK-47, doesn’t matter.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 7:56 am to BHS78
Yes, background checks are required for every gun purchased from an FFL, now if I sell you my BPS micro trap, never been fired for $600 then no background check is required
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:03 am to Ol boy
+1 for a full sized gun
In my 7 years of teaching concealed carry classes, I have yet to find a single person who cannot shoot some variation of full sized 9mm. Once she learns the fundamentals and controls and builds some muscle memory you can have her step up to a smaller carry gun. The logic sounds backwards but as another poster pointed out, most women think they want the tiny “cute” gun until they feel how much more it beats up their hands.
In my 7 years of teaching concealed carry classes, I have yet to find a single person who cannot shoot some variation of full sized 9mm. Once she learns the fundamentals and controls and builds some muscle memory you can have her step up to a smaller carry gun. The logic sounds backwards but as another poster pointed out, most women think they want the tiny “cute” gun until they feel how much more it beats up their hands.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:26 am to RoyalWe
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Smith & Wesson Shield EZ 9mm.
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Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:27 am to Ol boy
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My wife carries a Glock 43. Resist the urge to buy a small micro gun.
My wife has weak hands. She couldn't easily rack the slide on a full size handgun.
The only REAL trade-off between a full sized gun and and a carry size gun is the magazine capacity. Yes, you lose some muzzle velocity in a full size vs carry size weapon, but the difference is negligible. Both will do a fine job of poking holes in bad guys.
FBI Statistics have shown that above .22 LR, there is no difference in the legality of all standard calibers, and this includes .380 auto.
Watch this video. It's a little long, but well worth the 11-12 mins it takes to watch it.
The Best Handgun Caliber - A Real World Study
A snipit from the video. FWIW, the .380 exceeds the pistol average for legality and 1 shot stops to the head.
LINK
Don't believe myths and urban legend. Look at real world data.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 8:41 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:36 am to Lonnie Utah
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My wife has weak hands. She couldn't easily rack the slide on a full size handgun.
Fun fact. The spring in a smaller pistol is stiffer than that in a full size pistol. It has to be in order to compensate for the loss of slide mass. You can go down in caliber to get a slide that is easier to charge but this issue is the primary reason that many women choose a revolver.
FWIW, there is a technique to charging the slide and many people do it wrong. If you are holding the pistol still and trying to pull the slide back that is incorrect. You should be pushing the pistol forward with one hand while pulling back on the slide with the other. Using both arms and the momentum of movement, almost all people discover they can easily charge a pistol that they previously could not.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:45 am to jbgleason
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The spring in a smaller pistol is stiffer than that in a full size pistol
She's shot both. I'm just telling you what she was able to do at the range with REAL world pistols in her hands. The pistol she operated most easily was the Shield ez.
She was trained by a NRA (female) champion pistol shooter at her well armed woman's group.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 8:46 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:47 am to RoyalWe
The Shield is a great first gun. I'd get a shotgun to go with it.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:48 am to Lonnie Utah
I didn’t say micro guns are no good or not lethal. I have a ruger lcp and a kahr cm9 and my wife likes to shoot the full size guns more and shoots them more accurate.
To many times people point woman or a woman picks the small gun because as others said the would think they are easier to rack the slide or smaller for their hands .
More than likely the lethalness is the gun will ever be in question however the confidence and ability to be comfortable with it needs to be there from get go.
To many times people point woman or a woman picks the small gun because as others said the would think they are easier to rack the slide or smaller for their hands .
More than likely the lethalness is the gun will ever be in question however the confidence and ability to be comfortable with it needs to be there from get go.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:52 am to Lonnie Utah
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The only REAL trade-off between a full sized gun and and a carry size gun is the magazine capacity.
This is completely inaccurate. Advantages of a full sized:
1. Magazine capacity
2. Full sized grip (no dangling pinkies)
3. More weight (softer recoil impulse)
4. Higher velocity (longer barrel)
5. Accessory rail (most carry guns don’t have one)
6. Easier to manipulate controls (ergonomically spaced-out)
7. Lighter recoil spring (easier to rack)
Most people think a female can’t rack the slide on a handgun but this is also false. The proper racking technique must be used to utilize large muscle groups rather than just forearm muscles:
Point your thumb at your chest and grip the slide with the base of your palm and tips of your fingers. Push the gun away from you while also pulling the slide to the rear. You are now using the large muscle groups from both your left and right side. As stated earlier, I have yet to find a single person who has been unable to do this with a full sized gun. Some are easier than others but it can be done with practice.
EDIT: you mention the shield EZ - the reason it’s easier to rack is because it has an internal hammer. So the spring force of that hammer combined with the recoil spring create the resistance for the slide movement, as opposed to just the recoil spring. It allows for easier racking and has seemed to be a fan-favorite.
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 8:54 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 8:59 am to bapple
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This is completely inaccurate. Advantages of a full sized:
Watch the video I posted.
You're right. Those are all advantages. But in data from real world situations, there is no significant difference in PISTOL lethality and 1 shot kills (incapacitation success) between the major defensive rounds:
.38 special - 83%
380 acp, - 84%
9mm - 86%
.357 mag - 87%
40 smith - 87%
44 mag - 87%
People get twisted and think that they have to kill their opponent in order to stop them. That's false. There are three types of stops in an attack on one's person. Lethality (death), incapacitation (physical injury) and psychological (Oh crap, I'm being shot at). All three are just as effective as the other.
The point is, people should buy what works best for them, not what folks tell them they need to or should buy (and this includes the recommendation I posted above)
This post was edited on 6/6/20 at 9:04 am
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:01 am to shrevetigertom
For a female not used to guns? The Ruger LCR. Point and shoot.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:21 am to Nole Man
When my wife started carrying we went to the range to let her try different guns. She left with the S&W Airweight. She liked the idea of the hammerless frame and nothing to hang on inside her purse.
Posted on 6/6/20 at 9:45 am to shrevetigertom
Posted on 6/6/20 at 10:04 am to shrevetigertom
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