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re: Friend just bitten by this snake. Copperhead?
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:13 am to Tiger4Liberty
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:13 am to Tiger4Liberty
No. Colorful cottonmouth with a bad head.
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:39 am to LEASTBAY
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Many of them in Kentucky for whatever reason.
Lot of it in North Alabama also.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 3:30 pm to highcotton2
South Texas deer lease neighbors wife got bit by a coral snake. She was air lifted to a hospital in San Antonio and the anti venom caused a heart attack. She survived it all. The hospital bill was several hundred thousand. Don't get snake bit!!
Posted on 9/25/22 at 6:25 pm to Splackavellie
Looks like a Cottonmouth to me.
I killed one of these the other day 3' from my garage door.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:13 pm to Ron Cheramie
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You gonna find out first hand one of these days if you keep handling them
Yeah...I’m just trying to be prepared.
Was gonna put “asking for a friend” but y’all would see right through that ruse.
When it does happen, I’ll post a play by play here.
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:14 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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No. Colorful cottonmouth with a bad head.
I was wondering how that thing bit her with no head.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:54 am to upgrayedd
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Has good insurance, otherwise she'd have a six figure hospital bill.
Well, you have to make up for all of the emergency room visits with those that don't have insurance.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:38 am to AyyyBaw
Cottonmouths are black, dull flat black. This is a copperhead!
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:54 am to TigrrrDad
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You gonna find out first hand one of these days if you keep handling them
Yeah...I’m just trying to be prepared.
Was gonna put “asking for a friend” but y’all would see right through that ruse.
When it does happen, I’ll post a play by play here.
what's the background here?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 9:55 am to BIG Texan
Cotton mouths aka water moccasins can either be dull flat black or very colorful and patterned like a copperhead or rattle snake.
Terrain seems to be the driver,, north louisiana or piney woods miss will be patterned mostly. South louisiana swamp and marsh will be black mostly. But I have seen either at either area.
Terrain seems to be the driver,, north louisiana or piney woods miss will be patterned mostly. South louisiana swamp and marsh will be black mostly. But I have seen either at either area.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:44 am to BIG Texan
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This is a copperhead!
Wrong
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:17 am to Ol boy
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Cotton mouths aka water moccasins can either be dull flat black or very colorful and patterned like a copperhead or rattle snake
Exactly - while the youngsters tend to be more colorful, even adults can vary drastically in color (even in the same area).
These are all South LA cottons…
That second one is the blackest I’ve ever seen - even on the belly. I’d say the last one is more typical of most cottons seen in LA.
Copperheads around here are much lighter tan than even the lightest, most colorful cottons (further north they tend to get a bit darker). And there pattern doesn’t have the “pixelated” look that borders the cottonmouth’s bands. The copperheads can have spots within the markings like cottons do, but the borders of the “Hershey kisses” are more sharply delineated.
Here’s a Kentucky copperhead found by someone else - color is a lot darker and pattern is closer to banding seen on cottons. I could see this variation causing a lot more confusion.
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what's the background here
Northshore Aggie - I think this post answers your question too.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:32 am to TigrrrDad
Copperheads are much more common up here, as are bites. Most adults do not receive antivenin from what I hear.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:45 am to gmrkr5
Another note on coppers - don’t be totally reliant on the perfect “Hershey kisses” pattern for id if you’re a novice. Aberrant patterns are becoming quite common in copperheads. Look at the crazy pattern on this one I caught in East Baton Rouge in April…
And on the extreme end of aberrations, there are even striped coppers around - someone found this one in Mississippi…
And on the extreme end of aberrations, there are even striped coppers around - someone found this one in Mississippi…
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 11:49 am
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:59 am to Splackavellie
How did they get bit?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:49 pm to Tiger4Liberty
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She was bitten on the finger. Hand swollen about half way up the hand. Six vials of antivenom being given now. She's not sick. No breathing problems.
This is good. Antivenom is the ONLY effective treatment. You'd be surprised how many ERs are not well educated in treating envenomations. No benadryl, no antibiotics, no NSAIDS. These do nothing. Limb/extremity needs to be elevated as much as possible, too.
Good luck. Most bites end with full recovery and no major issues.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:57 pm to gmrkr5
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Copperheads are much more common up here, as are bites. Most adults do not receive antivenin from what I hear.
Copperheads will often give a dry-bite first. Sister got bit not too long ago, and the hospital just kept her in observation for several hours before realizing she didn't receive any venom.
If you're getting bit, Copperhead is the way to go.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:02 pm to TigrrrDad
Yeah, this one looks like a cotton to me until you get to his head. Definitely confusing. Awesome post you psycho.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:38 pm to Tiger4Liberty
I’ll throw one more identifier that I haven’t seen mentioned. If you have problems distinguishing a copper from a cottonmouth, the cottonmouth will have a dark band through its eyes. Also called a Zorro mask. But since this one has no head it’s difficult to tell.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 6:50 pm to TigrrrDad
Those copperheads look crazy. Still screams “bad MF’r” lol.
Most recent one I found in the yard…
Most recent one I found in the yard…
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