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FPC Mock v. Garland: ATF Pistol Brace Rule Vacated
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/13/24 at 10:44 am
Score another one for the good guys. The rule wasn't vacated on 2A grounds but on violation of the APA which was always a more sure path to removing the rule at any level.
FPC post on X with ruling.
FPC post on X with ruling.
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:03 pm to Clames
Time for another FPC donation
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/13/24 at 1:11 pm to upgrayedd
So braces are legal again?
Posted on 6/13/24 at 2:20 pm to Success
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So braces are legal again?
never removed mine in the first place, frick ATF
Posted on 6/13/24 at 3:44 pm to Don Quixote
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never removed mine in the first place, frick ATF
Laughing at them baws that sbr'd their pistols
Posted on 6/13/24 at 4:36 pm to upgrayedd
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Laughing at them baws that sbr'd their pistols
Laugh at me all you want, I knew it would end up this way. I planned to SBR mine one day anyway but didn't feel like shelling out the $. Now I have 11 SBRs I wanted, 2,200 I didn't have to pay, don't have to engrave them, and can still swap on a brace if need be. I am going to get a nice scope for my next build to celebrate
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:03 pm to NOLAGT
This ruling is a step to getting SBR's and silencers removed from the NFA, so it's likely we'll have SBR's with no tax stamp or paperwork at all in the relatively near future.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 5:05 pm to Clames
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This ruling is a step to getting SBR's and silencers removed from the NFA, so it's likely we'll have SBR's with no tax stamp or paperwork at all in the relatively near future.
Thats how it should be in the first place, I won't hold my breath for them taking both off the registry anytime soon tho. For me, this was an opportunity to not have to pay while things get worked out. I am on the NFA list already whether it goes away or not.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:06 pm to NOLAGT
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way. I planned to SBR mine one day anyway but didn't feel like shelling out the $. Now I have 11 SBRs I wanted, 2,200 I didn't have to pay, don't have to engrave them, and can still swap on a brace if need be
This is a pretty legit win. I knew I wanted the option for an actual stock, so I didn't mess around with pistol braces and just got a stamp (outside of the grace period window in my case). But if you were in the position of having a collection of pistols, you got free stamps. Cool if it's 1 or 2. Awesome screw you to the process if it's 11, haha.
Posted on 6/13/24 at 9:05 pm to Don Quixote
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never removed mine in the first place, frick ATF
This is the ONLY response…anything else shows one to be a spineless sheep.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:46 pm to Clames
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This ruling is a step to getting SBR's and silencers removed from the NFA, so it's likely we'll have SBR's with no tax stamp or paperwork at all in the relatively near future.
People keep saying this but it's not going to happen. The NFA was an act passed by Congress. All these rulings that keep getting struck down were actions by federal agencies outside of their purview.
If Congress passes something, SCOTUS is not going to overrule or alter it. That's been proven over and over and over again.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 1:56 pm to Jack Ruby
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If Congress passes something, SCOTUS is not going to overrule or alter it. That's been proven over and over and over again.
That's a lame analysis as this court has proved that even laws that had existed for nearly 100 years can still be struck down. The Heller and Bruen decisions cast doubt on many "presumably constitutional" laws and cases like this chip away at them in ways I don't think many really recognize.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 4:19 pm to Clames
I guess slide fire is gonna be back in business soon.
Posted on 6/14/24 at 11:14 pm to Clames
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That's a lame analysis as this court has proved that even laws that had existed for nearly 100 years can still be struck down.
Heller and Bruen decisions were vs D.C. and New York. What congressional federal gun laws has this court overturned? This court ain’t touching the NFA.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:39 am to ValhallaAwaits
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This is the ONLY response…anything else shows one to be a spineless sheep.
Damn you are badass. I bet you make your own suppressors also don’t you. You don’t have to answer just wink.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:20 am to Grifola
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What congressional federal gun laws has this court overturned? This court ain’t touching the NFA.
It's getting there.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 10:38 am to Clames
Depends on what was passed by congress vs what was a rule dreamed up in an ATF office.
The real tough nut to crack is restrictions on firearms that were passed by congress. These atf rules were real softballs for the court.
The real tough nut to crack is restrictions on firearms that were passed by congress. These atf rules were real softballs for the court.
Posted on 6/15/24 at 5:12 pm to upgrayedd
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Laughing at them baws that sbr'd their pistols
Dumbasses
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:15 pm to Clames
Apparently the gun grabbers are melting down because Clarence Thomas copied and pasted some of FPCs documents challenging the bump stock ban
Posted on 6/17/24 at 1:32 pm to Clames
quote:It's not lame at all. It's most likely correct.
That's a lame analysis
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