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re: Fishing Boat sinking offshore
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:26 am to HeadBusta4LSU
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:26 am to HeadBusta4LSU
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My guess is both their stories are a little off and the truth is somewhere in the middle
If that’s the case then I think the truth still ends with Da Chit being in the wrong.
Just read through all the FB posts. I can’t imagine any sane human being refusing to at least get their kids off of their sinking boat bc coast guard is allegedly on the way. If that’s Da Chit’s story, it’s not a good one.
The guys on the sinking boat, the guys on both rescuing boats, and the guy snapping photos on the rig itself all say Da Chit was apprehensive to render aid and when aid arrived they picked up and left.
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:40 am to HeadBusta4LSU
Refused help?
Look at the pic in the OP
Please tell me which one of those people were refusing help
That's hilarious, now that everyone is safe, but that's the best he can come up with, I'm afraid he's gonna get what he deserves.
Look at the pic in the OP
Please tell me which one of those people were refusing help
That's hilarious, now that everyone is safe, but that's the best he can come up with, I'm afraid he's gonna get what he deserves.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:44 am to HeadBusta4LSU
Like Titanic I guess.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 12:39 pm to wahoocs
Like i said, his story is a little shady lol
Posted on 7/21/20 at 2:04 pm to fishfighter
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I have to disagree with that. I knew someone that stayed on top of his boat and yet he had a thru hull fitting bust loose. One were he couldn't get to install a plug.
it'd take a catastrophic failing of a mighty big thru-hull to out pace an appropriately sized / installed, well maintained, bilge pump on a boat that size. Not saying it ain't possible cause its a boat and boats are constantly trying to self destruct and take unwitting folks with them but.
Given all things being equal a one inch thru hull 24 inches under water will allow 1668 gallons of water into a hull in an hour IF it is completely gone and hasn't taken anymore of the hull with it in its departure. a 1500 GPF bilge pump would fail to remove 188 gallons of water in an hour. If, however, the same thru hull was broken, say at the hose, the flow rate would be considerably lower. If the thru hull is 4 inches higher in the water, toward the surface, it would allow about half that much water in.
I personally would never have one bilge pump on a boat...especially one I intended to go offshore on, with kids aboard. They fail way to often, wiring goes awry, and their rating is, of course, in a laboratory setting...but it is still pretty close. On top of that I would not take a small boat offshore which wasn't a wash deck. As soon as the bilge came on and stayed on longer than normal I would find out why....as soon as I saw more water coming in than going out I would soil myself, use some very colorful language which could arguably be as damaging to the emotional well being of said kids as sinking would be, crank that sucker up, head to the hill and drain that sucker through the scuppers. I would bet that this is a situation where several factors came together, as they will do in a boat offshore, and they had no time to do anything.
If the "captain" indeed is a captain and did not render assistance he won't be a captain long. Even a recreational boater is legally required to render assistance to a boat in peril at sea....I think this applies on land locked bodies of water but I am certain it does in navigable water....not only is it the law but it is the damned right thing to do and is inexcusable if true...
Posted on 7/21/20 at 2:09 pm to LSUintheNW
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My boat had a 500 gph that I replaced with a 3000 gph bilge. On a float or an auto. Don't need it til you need it.
get another one the same size, install it properly and check them regularly with water in the hull, not by operating the switch. The switch will work when lifted but may no longer float. In my opinion bilge pumps in an offshore boat are akin to brakes on a car you plan to go careening down the highway in....accept of course there is not a dependable bilge pump made that I am aware of and they all need to be tested and replaced regularly.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 2:13 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
"tru plug"
That thang aint meant to plug up a hole in a boat....
Imagine someone finding that thing out of the package in the cabin of a walk around....say some guy you didn't know well goes into the cabin or the console, 30 miles offshore, just you and him, and he finds that thing....that is going to make for a damned uncomfortable ride back to the hill....the silence would be deafening. He ain't ever gonna buy that thang is meant to plug a hole in a boat....its meant to plug a hole but not one in a boat....
That thang aint meant to plug up a hole in a boat....
Imagine someone finding that thing out of the package in the cabin of a walk around....say some guy you didn't know well goes into the cabin or the console, 30 miles offshore, just you and him, and he finds that thing....that is going to make for a damned uncomfortable ride back to the hill....the silence would be deafening. He ain't ever gonna buy that thang is meant to plug a hole in a boat....its meant to plug a hole but not one in a boat....
Posted on 7/21/20 at 2:13 pm to Gtmodawg
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there is not a dependable bilge pump made that I am aware of and they all need to be tested and replaced regularly.
Nope. Gotta run double barrel pumps
Posted on 7/21/20 at 3:38 pm to Gtmodawg
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tru plug" That thang aint meant to plug up a hole in a boat.... Imagine someone finding that thing out of the package in the cabin of a walk around....say some guy you didn't know well goes into the cabin or the console, 30 miles offshore, just you and him, and he finds that thing....that is going to make for a damned uncomfortable ride back to the hill....the silence would be deafening. He ain't ever gonna buy that thang is meant to plug a hole in a boat....its meant to plug a hole but not one in a boat....
Looks like the Closeted-Mo has entered the chat.
Posted on 7/21/20 at 4:14 pm to Honest Tune
I can add to this by saying I had first hand reports from two friends that keep their boat at Moran’s that heard it all play out on the radio, da chit shite on the people in the water. We knew nothing of it waiting out the big morning storm and when we got out there right after lunch and came up on the bow of that Grady sticking up in the air upside down, it was a heart drop moment. We quickly radioed in to check on status of the crew. It was a good radio check, the Coast Guard answered right away and sounded like they were 100 yards away, not 30 miles. Pretty impressive. They confirmed everyone was ok and thanked us for reporting.
Starting on Saturday night, the non-Samaritan has been called out on Facebook forums to set the record straight and it’s been crickets, so guessing he was in the wrong. And let’s say he’s not popular with the rest of us having boats in the marina.
Starting on Saturday night, the non-Samaritan has been called out on Facebook forums to set the record straight and it’s been crickets, so guessing he was in the wrong. And let’s say he’s not popular with the rest of us having boats in the marina.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:47 am to LSUintheNW
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Upgrade your bilge now if you can't pump out more than 1000 gph.
A wise man once told me, “a bilge pump only delays the inevitable”
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:15 am to Capt ST
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A wise man once told me, “a bilge pump only delays the inevitable”
I think you might be using the term "wise" liberally. The same could be said for fiberglass and floatation foam. Left to its own devices for a long enough period of time the fiberglass in the hull is merely delaying the inevitability of a boats sinking, as is the floatation foam....given enough time and enough inattention to detail and a boat will sink...fiberglass will become porous over time...it will begin to leak. Floatation foam will become waterlogged and will break down and will no longer keep a boat afloat. Any boat, left in water deep enough to do so for long enough will sink. The building materials do not matter...if it is floating it will eventually sink given enough time and opportunity.
Bilge pumps are all lousy, in my experience...the only thing lousier are the switches that control them. Both fail regularly. That is why they should be redundant and checked / maintained and replaced on a regular basis. Again, if you float a chunk of fiberglass on the surface of a body of water lots of shite can happen....but if you find something in your makeup that makes it necessary to venture onto that body of water, floating on that chunk of fiberglass, it is pretty smart to take as many precautions as necessary, and a properly sized, properly installed, properly maintained, properly operational redundant system of pumps meant to pump water out faster than it comes in is the basis of those precautions, second only to ensuring the drain plug is installed....
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:11 am to Gtmodawg
You forgot to add that every bilge pump will eventually fail when they run out of battery.
I am running a 750 & 850 on my 23V, that grady should have had atleast two 2,000's.
I am running a 750 & 850 on my 23V, that grady should have had atleast two 2,000's.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:46 am to Capt ST
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A wise man once told me, “a bilge pump only delays the inevitable”
Isn't that the truth about everything?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:57 am to Icansee4miles
He shite on them? I still haven't heard the story. Kinda strange. I guess just curious if there is a play by play.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 12:30 pm to Gtmodawg
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I think you might be using the term "wise" liberally
He made a pretty good living building ships. I'll try and do better.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 1:53 pm to LEASTBAY
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play by play.
Only think I can gather from all the facebook reports are the following.
Boat that sank and guy in question are fishing near each other.
Boat starts to sink and and people are rescued by boat 3 and 4. Guy in question does not aid in recovery.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:16 pm to snapper26
what facebook page was it on?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 2:20 pm to snapper26
Kinda how I'm piecing it together also. Others came so he kept fishing possibly.
Posted on 7/22/20 at 3:27 pm to Capt ST
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I think you might be using the term "wise" liberally He made a pretty good living building ships. I'll try and do better.
He wasn't wrong....a boat is going to sink someday regardless of what we do to prevent it...all of them built to date by all of man since time out of mind have either sank or would have if left in the water. I can't imagine anything ever floating forever. A bilge pump's sole purpose is to stave off the inevitable for as long as possible, as you attributed. I just question the wisdom in making a statement that is readily available knowledge to anyone concerned...it would be akin to someone saying the sky is some shade of blue most of the time and someone claiming they were wise based on that observation alone....
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