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re: Duck reports, feet hanging, we banging
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:25 am to KemoSabe65
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:25 am to KemoSabe65
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Nets around Caldwell Parish now?
We will send a few through the nets as long as the white shrimp boot wearing coon-assess don't invade Tensas to bad. If it is an outright invasion, we keep the nets up all season.
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:29 am to MWP
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We will send a few through the nets as long as the white shrimp boot wearing coon-assess don't invade Tensas to bad. If it is an outright invasion, we keep the nets up all season.
they cannot be stopped. Go see them at the little campground in Westwood!
Posted on 11/12/20 at 8:08 pm to Capt ST
Anyway admins can pin this one?
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:18 pm to Tigah D
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BUT most acknowledge that the greater Kaplan/Gueydan/Thornwell/Hayes/Bell City region is not what it once was. Theres a lot of rice in central La now (Whiteville/Bunkie, etc.) with a lot of geese and also NE La is getting a lot of geese these days.
I grew up in SWLa. And I remember the huge flocks of geese that used to migrate in the fall. In fact with a good early cold front I used to love to listen for them when outside. So fast forward to 2004, I moved to west Houston near Cypress. And again there were large flocks of white geese migrating down. By the time I left in 2011 they were almost gone as there was such a reduction in rice farming out on the Katy Prairie. But I moved to Oklahoma and that place is loaded up with geese in the winter. So with changes in agriculture I guess they stay up north. I've seen you guys write about it. And hunting in the rice fields and fresh water marshes back in the late 70s/early 80s we used to kill the hell out of mallards south of Lake Charles. I guess not so much anymore.
This post was edited on 11/13/20 at 7:14 am
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:47 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Southeast arkansas has exploded with specks the last 20 years. In the 90’s we sometimes killed 15-20 out of a good pit each season. Now there are places that kill hundreds every year. The geese have followed the rice as others have said. Snows aren’t going to go back to the Katy prairie or south Louisiana like they once did with all the rice now in missouri and arkansas.
This post was edited on 11/12/20 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:34 pm to Tigah D
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he said that there was plenty feed left after the storms
I know who you’re talking about. Their big lease is further west and a little more inland than where we are so maybe it was more protected.. or they’re not gonna talk about their marsh that got wiped out. Time will tell with pictures I guess.
Our water needs to drop about 2’. Seems to be a reoccurring thing the last few years. Water levels don’t get right until 2nd split.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 12:31 am to DuckSausage
What did SE Arkansas have planted before rice? Like say 15-20 yrs ago
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:25 am to bluewing
Rice farming acerage in Arkansas has been about the same since the late 70’s. They plant a million to million and a half acres per year, depending on the prices. There hasn’t been a significant increase in rice production in 40 years.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 6:50 am to bluewing
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What did SE Arkansas have planted before rice? Like say 15-20 yrs ago
Not sure if arkansas farmers do this or not, I would imagine they do - but rice farmers in NELA after harvest will plow that field down to dust in order to have to do less prep for next planting season. Very very little rice left in those fields
Farmer will gladly take your money and pump the field with water and when you don’t leave it next year because it sucked, some other sucker will be right behind you to scoop it up. Rinse. Repeat
Posted on 11/13/20 at 7:53 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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I grew up in SWLa. And I remember the huge flocks of geese that used to migrate in the fall. In fact with a good early cold front I used to love to listen for them when outside. So fast forward to 2004, I moved to west Houston near Cypress. And again there were large flocks of white geese migrating down. By the time I left in 2011 they were almost gone as there was such a reduction in rice farming out on the Katy Prairie. But I moved to Oklahoma and that place is loaded up with geese in the winter. So with changes in agriculture I guess they stay up north. I've seen you guys write about it. And hunting in the rice fields and fresh water marshes back in the late 70s/early 80s we used to kill the hell out of mallards south of Lake Charles. I guess not so much anymore.
Totally different region of the country but there is a WMA on the coast of Georgia which has been managed in some form or fashion for waterfowl since the 1930s. There is a log book in the admin building lobby where kill records are posted for the public. They are available from year one. Between 1930 and 1940 there were a BUNCH of Canada and Snow Geese killed on this WMA. Shortly after WW2 corn became more viable in Maryland and Virginia and the method of harvest resulted in far more spillage. By 1950 there were only a few geese of any color killed on this WMA and I don't think there has been a snow goose killed in nearly 70 years. The numbers of puddle ducks killed also nose dived, even Teal, the mainstay puddler in the area. Between agricultural changes, private management of massive tracks of waterfowl habitat and warmer winters waterfowl have no reason to go as far south as they once did in the same numbers. Most years when they do get as far south as the gulf coast in numbers it is so late in the season that they are starting to display courtship behavior and may have already paired off....shooting them in large numbers at this stage is a bad idea....that's why all of us in the south always talk about the season starting to early and ending nowhere near late enough to see most of the migtration in season. It has to be painful for those of you who remember having world class waterfowling within minutes of the house. For traveling hunters it only means the difference between going to Arkansas and Oklahoma instead of Louisiana. We have never had great waterfowling in Georgia as the western half of the state is blocked by the Appalachians and the coast is to far south for birds to arrive in season in numbers....but for those of you in Louisiana and Texas where I can remember raft after raft of BIG ducks and gees of all stripes lining bar pits and rice fields it has to be maddening to see what sounds like very reduced numbers.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 7:57 am to bluewing
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hat did SE Arkansas have planted before rice? Like say 15-20 yrs ago
Stuttgart Arkansas has been called the rice capital of the world for as long as I can remember. Probably a misnomer, I don't know, but I hunted the area heavily in the 1980's and it had been going on for many years prior to that....it is east central Arkansas but as far as I know they grew rice in the state anywhere it was flat enough to be practical....
Posted on 11/13/20 at 8:02 am to Ron Cheramie
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Not sure if arkansas farmers do this or not, I would imagine they do - but rice farmers in NELA after harvest will plow that field down to dust in order to have to do less prep for next planting season. Very very little rice left in those fields Farmer will gladly take your money and pump the field with water and when you don’t leave it next year because it sucked, some other sucker will be right behind you to scoop it up. Rinse. Repeat
In my experience rice in a rice field only lasts a few weeks into the season if that....its other seed bearing plants that take root and produce that attracts waterfowl. I take your point though about the fields being plowed down to dust....if that is the case any plant taking root and producing food would be limited. I was in a lease outside of Stuttgart between 1984 and 1990 and we had rice fields and timber and the rice fields never had a lot of rice in them during the season but other weeds flourished in them....but that may have been more a function of those relatively small tracts being managed for waterfowl as much as rice....
Posted on 11/13/20 at 8:12 am to Gtmodawg
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In my experience rice in a rice field only lasts a few weeks into the season if that..
Incorrect. . We kill ducks with rice in their craw the entire season
Posted on 11/13/20 at 8:29 am to LSUballs
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quote: In my experience rice in a rice field only lasts a few weeks into the season if that.. Incorrect. . We kill ducks with rice in their craw the entire season
We did also but it was far more early than late.
Are the field you hunt managed for waterfowl and rice production or is waterfowl ancillary to rice production? Just curious if it makes a difference in how it is harvested and what is done when it is harvested as far as "plowing them to dust" goes.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:02 am to Gtmodawg
Just told our field for tomorrow may have been manipulated in a way inconsistent with green jean's desires. Hunt aborted.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:03 am to Gtmodawg
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In my experience rice in a rice field only lasts a few weeks into the season if that....its other seed bearing plants that take root and produce that attracts waterfowl.
Yes, that is probably correct. And in modern farming they likely do everything they can to prevent spillage. Back to the Katy Prairie west of Houston, not only is rice not farmed, the old large fields may now have Fedex shipping facilities of immense size on them. The areas west of Houston have disappeared as duck habitat and I saw predictions of that a decade ago. But I remember in 2005, 6 to 7 I could walk outside at night and hear flock after flock of geese as they flew over. I don't hunt anymore as I very much live out of the flyway in East Texas. I build wood duck boxes for fun and place them around the lake.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:10 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Any new coastal reports? I have enough farming reports lol
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:18 am to AlxTgr
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Just told our field for tomorrow may have been manipulated in a way inconsistent with green jean's desires. Hunt aborted.
Damn the luck. I have been there....better safe than sorry but damn it sucks....
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:32 am to Dale Doubak
Delacroix report from yesterday was thin. Bring a fishing pole.
Posted on 11/13/20 at 9:35 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Yes, that is probably correct. And in modern farming they likely do everything they can to prevent spillage. Back to the Katy Prairie west of Houston, not only is rice not farmed, the old large fields may now have Fedex shipping facilities of immense size on them. The areas west of Houston have disappeared as duck habitat and I saw predictions of that a decade ago. But I remember in 2005, 6 to 7 I could walk outside at night and hear flock after flock of geese as they flew over. I don't hunt anymore as I very much live out of the flyway in East Texas. I build wood duck boxes for fun and place them around the lake.
I can remember driving through West Houston and anywhere there was grass there were snow geese. Still true somewhat but nowhere near like it was in the 70s and 80s. The area around Igloo north of I-10 was AMAZING at times....still some birds there but more costcos and tire dealerships now
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