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re: Duck Dog
Posted on 12/28/16 at 6:35 pm to LSUfreak1459
Posted on 12/28/16 at 6:35 pm to LSUfreak1459
A friend got a 6 month old dog for free. Spent money to send it to get trained. Took her on her first hunt on opening of second split this season. She retrieved 10 birds and found one in the marsh on the first hunt.
Good training can go a long way but it the dog doesn't have a nose or the drive to hunt you are fighting a losing battle.
Good training can go a long way but it the dog doesn't have a nose or the drive to hunt you are fighting a losing battle.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 6:43 pm to Redfish2010
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:40 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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, I don't speak French.
It ain't hard, just practice, over and over...
"Fetch dem dam ducks, meaux feaux"!
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:52 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
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Or the success of litter mates.
Or the only contributing member of society that birthed them
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Posted on 12/28/16 at 8:56 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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he's gonna be smarter than me.
Yeah mine is smarter than me too. I used to get pissed when she'd break from
a command, I've learned to give a second to let her do her thing. More like than once I've gone, damn that makes sense.
Posted on 12/28/16 at 9:52 pm to LSUfreak1459
In the future I'm going to seriously consider buying a finished dog. Why risk spending all the money on an unproven (drive and/or biddability) puppy?
Posted on 12/28/16 at 10:26 pm to LSUfreak1459
Whether you get your lab trained or train it yourself.....
Read the book Water Dog by Richard Wolters. This will help you train, maintain, and/or understand your lab 100 times better.
I have had 3 labs in my life. My current lab has a hunt drive unlike I've seen before. She is a gamer. My previous labs loved to please and were trainable, but I had no idea what superior 'HUNT' traits can do for a dog.
Do your homework.
I prefer a mixed lab of 1/2 to 3/4 American Lab and 1/2 or 1/4 British Lab.
I find 100% British labs get fat and lazy too easily. No offense meant to british lab enthusiasts. And.. 100% American labs can be high strung.
Good luck
Read the book Water Dog by Richard Wolters. This will help you train, maintain, and/or understand your lab 100 times better.
I have had 3 labs in my life. My current lab has a hunt drive unlike I've seen before. She is a gamer. My previous labs loved to please and were trainable, but I had no idea what superior 'HUNT' traits can do for a dog.
Do your homework.
I prefer a mixed lab of 1/2 to 3/4 American Lab and 1/2 or 1/4 British Lab.
I find 100% British labs get fat and lazy too easily. No offense meant to british lab enthusiasts. And.. 100% American labs can be high strung.
Good luck
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:32 am to jimbeam
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Ie can old dogs learn new tricks.
My buddy took his 7 year old British lab duck hunting for the first time last weekend. Before then he was nothing more than a pet couch potato. I'll be damned, that son of a bish retrieved ducks... Never thought I'd see the day
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:02 am to WAR TIGER
I'll definitely pick up the book. Where do you find labs that are mixed like that? Any in Louisiana?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:13 am to Capt ST
Capt, yours went through their gundog school? did it take the full 7 months?
They said Maverick could be there anywhere from 4-7 months. Been 3 weeks now, they are starting on hold training. I want him back quick
They said Maverick could be there anywhere from 4-7 months. Been 3 weeks now, they are starting on hold training. I want him back quick
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:17 am to LSUfreak1459
Someone earlier in the thread mentioned force fetching.....DO NOT try to force fetch your dog if you've never trained a dog before.
Seasoned trainers still end up ruining many a dog trying to force fetch them.
Seasoned trainers still end up ruining many a dog trying to force fetch them.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:19 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
If you don't mind me asking, how much are you paying for you pup and training?
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:29 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Someone earlier in the thread mentioned force fetching.....DO NOT try to force fetch your dog if you've never trained a dog before.
Seasoned trainers still end up ruining many a dog trying to force fetch them.
this.. every dog handles FF differently......
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:31 am to LSUfreak1459
Warning - I'll probably get crucified by the board for the following...
He was $2k...I get blood line back 5 generations all of them to England and Scotland.
You take him home at 7 weeks and they go back for gundog at 7 months.
From there they can be at Wildrose anywhere from 4-7 months at $700/month.
It's not cheap, but when you go on the tour and they bring a 6 month old dog into the bird pen with 100 ducks, pheasants, quail and pigeons and he sits on place while the birds fly all around him and doesn't flinch, and then walks off-lead heal not flinching it's pretty impressive. Not one bit of it with a shock collar or force fetched.
I debated sending him back for gundog school. But in the end I would have been doing him a disservice not sending him to get finished.
Here's his poppa, Deke. Good luck with your decision.
My dad went with me to drop him off for gundog and ended up putting a deposit down for a female from Deke.
He was $2k...I get blood line back 5 generations all of them to England and Scotland.
You take him home at 7 weeks and they go back for gundog at 7 months.
From there they can be at Wildrose anywhere from 4-7 months at $700/month.
It's not cheap, but when you go on the tour and they bring a 6 month old dog into the bird pen with 100 ducks, pheasants, quail and pigeons and he sits on place while the birds fly all around him and doesn't flinch, and then walks off-lead heal not flinching it's pretty impressive. Not one bit of it with a shock collar or force fetched.
I debated sending him back for gundog school. But in the end I would have been doing him a disservice not sending him to get finished.
Here's his poppa, Deke. Good luck with your decision.
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My dad went with me to drop him off for gundog and ended up putting a deposit down for a female from Deke.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:36 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
dirty mike... considering how much time and enjoyment is spent on it...it's money well spent...
more so than money thrown away on sports season tix.... or what people spend on cigarettes or other crap....
your money...your time.. go for it...
I just wouldn't pay anyone else to train me dog.... but that's me.. Ive been around a loooong while.
more so than money thrown away on sports season tix.... or what people spend on cigarettes or other crap....
your money...your time.. go for it...
I just wouldn't pay anyone else to train me dog.... but that's me.. Ive been around a loooong while.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 8:49 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Yea there's a lot to think about, which is why I'm not getting one any time soon. Worse case scenario is I go cheap and then it turns into a straight family pet and I don't have a hunting dog ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:04 am to LSUfreak1459
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Duck Dog
Yea there's a lot to think about, which is why I'm not getting one any time soon. Worse case scenario is I go cheap and then it turns into a straight family pet and I don't have a hunting dog
i've seen 5k dogs from multi FC champ lines flop.. and I have seen back yard litters have a pup qualify for national open....
you may stack the odds in your favor with a well bred dog.... but anything can happen..
more important than titles in lineage though is health clearance... OFA on hips and elbows.. and eyes... most notably with the bigger bred labs and chessies.. and be damn sure any dog you buy or pay to have trained or put a lot of time in training has clear hips, eyes and not a DM carrier...
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:12 am to choupiquesushi
Oh I'm aware that expensive dogs can flop. MY uncles BIL got a very expensive pup, and he couldn't stay in the blind. He would just dart off into the water and then come back and run around the blind. Another uncle has a cheap lab that's amazingly calm and does well. Most people that I have hunted with spend around $2k on pup and train and do fine. Will definitely talk to them when I get closer to making a decision. Just trying to see what the OB's experiences were.
Appreciate that info.
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OFA on hips and elbows.. and eyes
Appreciate that info.
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:18 am to LSUfreak1459
Yep, what choupique said.
I spent the initial money buying Maverick from WR because of their health guarantees, not their hunt lines.
When we looked at the geneology we looked for health certifications not FTC next to the names.
I spent the initial money buying Maverick from WR because of their health guarantees, not their hunt lines.
When we looked at the geneology we looked for health certifications not FTC next to the names.
Posted on 12/29/16 at 9:41 am to LSUfreak1459
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So my wife asked me the other day if I would like to get a lab for hunting and to keep outside so our husky can have a friend.
Are you planning to keep this dog just loose in your yard? I've seen bad results with that kind of situation. I'm not saying it can't work, but it will take some constant training and attention to train it to understand the difference between being able to run around in a yard and then sitting still in a blind.
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