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Developing swamp land

Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:16 am
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2378 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:16 am
So I’ve recently been offered a deal on about 4 acres of undeveloped swamp land in pierre part and was curious if anyone has ever done this before. The plan is to build a house on it but I’m not sure as to where the developing would begin. What’s the rule on knocking down some cypress trees, etc?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:19 am to
Find out if it is protected wetlands. Dewater. Remove muck and organic material. Build to elevation with structural fill.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:21 am to
You better be ready to fork over some $$$ for your wetland permit
Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
Member since Mar 2017
4258 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:29 am to
There is a reason you have been offered a "deal".
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2378 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:44 am to
Yea I’m kinda on the fence about it. Mainly the price of developing it. I know it’s going to be alot
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17828 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:46 am to
This is a bad idea IMO
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2378 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:54 am to
What’s your reasoning to believe it’s a bad idea?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:57 am to
Good luck.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14031 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:15 am to
quote:

There is a reason you have been offered a "deal".


Bingo!
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10851 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:17 am to
Worked out well for Walt Disney.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5142 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:19 am to
If it is a wetland (sounds like it is) you will have to mitigate for the wetlands Mitigation = $$$
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30024 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:20 am to
you cant fill in wetlands, even privately owned wetlands, and if you do, prepare your anus to be raped by the federal wetlands protection act government suits showing up at your door. and no, that doesnt only apply to federal owned lands.

enjoy owning your crawfish pond and mosquito farm

cant believe you fell for the old "i have some swamp land for sale"

This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 11:23 am
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2378 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:21 am to
I didn’t fall for anything. I didn’t buy it
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5142 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:25 am to
Yes you can buy and develop them. Just have to mitigate
Posted by Franktowntiger7
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2010
2719 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:21 pm to
And mitigation is extremely costly
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13895 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 12:28 pm to
Have an environmental consultant do a desktop delineation, shouldn't be very expensive to see if wet or not. If it's obviously wet this will is the cheapest way to know, but the report yields nothing official.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Have an environmental consultant do a desktop delineation, shouldn't be very expensive to see if wet or not. If it's obviously wet this will is the cheapest way to know, but the report yields nothing official.


All they are going to do is look at soils and potentially LiDAR. Not worth the money. If it's forested, you can't see shite on aerial to tell you if it is a wetland or not. Find someone that can read a soils map and you will get the same information.

OP, having experience in this area, I wouldn't touch that with a 39 1/2 foot pole. If it is, in fact, cypress swamp, the mitigation alone will be very expensive. Then, being in Pierre Part, it is likely in the coastal zone, so you have to deal with the State and Feds for permitting. DNR is a pain in the arse to deal with. You will likely want to hire a consultant to do the permitting work for you.

In the end, 4 acres of swamp would be a massive headache that I would advise against. Go find 4 acres of anything else and you will come out better than the "deal" and associated permitting costs of this property.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6847 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 2:11 pm to
Gonna cost you $75k-90k to acquire authorizations for each acre you want to clear and fill.

Will be about a one year permitting process.
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
Member since Jun 2012
2378 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 3:10 pm to
Thanks for the info fellas
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Developing swamp land


Just Build a boathouse
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