re: Deer Hunting with dogs is tradition*

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USDA numbers support drastic increases from 1900 to 2000, every decade These researchers say there were 13m deer in NA 1980, 34m today.

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Don’t bring facts to this argument

#qdma #boxstand4life #fancyriflesandcornpiles #wearealldeerbiologists

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I'm not anti dog hunting it you have to admit the herd in Louisiana is substantially better than it was in the 80s and 90s

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This doesn’t have much to do with dog hunting, and it’s probably more related to timber practices. Deer have exploded over the last 30 years everywhere. Running dogs isn’t a very efficient way to kill deer, at least not compared to a corn pile.

comments are giving me a new perspective. it is tradition and a very live one in the south. however when the dog hunters drive on your land to retrieve the dog while others are still hunting and making all kinds of noise it can be quite bothersome

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You can defend the practice all you want, but the truth is if dog hunters could keep their dogs on their own property we wouldn’t be having this debate. But they can’t.

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They could if they gave a shite. The ones I see all have GPS/corrective collars on them. They could spend the time to train the dogs to be buzzed off of a deer when they see it going on to another property.

Which bring us back to my original point. The hunter’s control over their dog is an illusion.

You and I are on opposite ends of this, and even you admit you can’t keep dogs from going on to property they shouldn’t be on if they are on a deer.

Never been a dog hunter mainly because I've never had deer dogs. The people next to us do it and have always been respectful and let me know if they think the dogs crossed the property line. I usually tell them to let em run cause I did kill a huge 8 point they ran by my stand one season. I think dog hunting is fine as long as its done respectfully.

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If dog hunting ends up banned it will be because of bad dog hunters.

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No it won't. It'll get banned because the culture of hunting has changed drastically in the past 20 years and its incompatible with modern hunters. Dog hunting doesn't work unless everyone is doing it because the property disputes are inevitable. Leases on average used to be much bigger, people didn't obsess over certain deer, and people caught each other's dogs for them or had agreements with each other about when trespassing was ok. It was well understood that sometimes it's going to happen and everyone was ok with it. Even with nearly 6,000 acres, it still happened sometimes. The difference is we practically shared land with our neighbors and generally got along great. Occasionally we even shot deer on each other's property



It was known, openly talked about, and generally everyone was OK with it. Now, shoot shovel shut up is such a common thing that everyone knows exactly what it means.

These days, trespassing is never ok. People hate their neighbors, who shoot "their" buck that they've been taking pictures of for 3 years and named Brutus or octopus or some dumb shite.

The whole culture of deer hunting in lousiana largely sucks now. Riding around on a side by side for an hour checking cameras and dumping corn out? Perfectly ok. Seeing a dog chasing a deer? Oh frick no. Totally fricking up everything. Ran brutus onto neighbors land. Wasted all the time and money



Like I said earlier, the corn sentries have already won. Just don't do any bitching when feeding gets outlawed because of CWD, when predators get reintroduced because the hippies think we need more bears, when somebody with more money takes your lease. You'll get no sympathy from me. My favorite part of the sport died 10 years ago and most people couldn't be happier for it.

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those who trespass on other peoples land to get their dog is a classless move

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I think it's classless to leave the animal and not try to make an attempt to get them.

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No, you really can't.

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yes, you really can. I train dogs. every dog can reliably be trained to 100% of the time recall when beeped or buzzed, but the average run-of-the-mill trashy mississippi dog hunter doesn't know how to, nor does he want to. that's too much work. far easier to turn them out in early October so they can "stretch them thar legs fer da season, hur dur."

I grew up dog hunting with my dad and his camps. it's a new day and age, and by far the majority of dog hunters in East Central Mississippi (and most of MS for that matter) that are left doing it are absolute bottom feeders. It's time for the mdwfp to regulate them out of existence, and that comes from a staunch libertarian who absolutely despises the police state. the piper has come to be paid for dog hunters, and it's the consequences of their own actions that have caused it. it damn well isn't the majority hunting population's fault, that's for DAMNED sure. actions have consequences, and like the old saying goes: if a group with like minded interests doesn't regulate themselves, then the government will regulate for you- and that comes with disastrous consequences for the group's interests.

between the rampant trespassing, disregard for non-hunting public's perception, the entitlement, the shooting on the roads, the emaciated, abandoned dogs after the season, and the double digit iq of the majority of today's dog hunters, I find it shocking that remaining dog hunters would be aghast that the hunting public is overwhelmingly on the opposite side of the aisle as the dog hunters. it ain't the good ol days and good ol boys doing it anymore, and the sheer fact that today's dog hunter thinks so lowly of constitutionally and God-given private property rights to where they regularly take a shite on said rights is what REALLY chaps my arse more than the deer hunting. regulate them out of existence unless they are a rich man/club with 3k+ acre tracts of land and be done with this nonsense. it's their fault, but like they always do, they'll refuse to take responsibility for their own actions.

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It's time for the mdwfp to regulate them out of existence, and that comes from a staunch libertarian who absolutely despises the police state.

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yep

A libertarian would protect his own, self reliance. You’re a phony, baw. Own it.

I’d love to see you train a walker hound to run deer on or off command. You don’t know shite from wild honey.